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Conversations with me, No. 14
Email highlights, ca. August 1998

Dedicated to the proposition that every thought that's ever been thunk may be of use or interest to someone . . .

ME: Subject: norm and shake 

About Beatlefan, what I had in mind was you letting your 
subscription slide.  You could have mine within days of me 
getting it (no big deal since you're used to reading them a year 
and a half late.)  The biggest drawback is ignoring the dayglo 
orange patches [of highlighter] , but they've become a lot rarer 
these days.  Anyhow, no big deal; just an idea - and one that 
occurred to me even before I had the shock of seeing the new (for 
me) $17 rate.  

THEE: Beatle-share 

Your idea of lending me "Beatlefans" is a good one.  I no 
longer keep issues, unless they feature pictures of Jane Asher 
covered in chocolate.  However, I tend to read them while eating 
lunch, so I'd return issues to you with food stains on them 
sometimes.  If you can dig that, I'd consider it.  

Incidently, I still enjoy reading "Beatlenews Roundup."  It 
was the height of arrogance for me to say yesterday that I knew a 
lot of the news bits already.  I found that the "Briefly..." 
segment is still a treasure trove of (in)significa.  

I'm having a blast with the Arthur Conan Doyle discussion 
group.  I mentioned to the grand poohbah of the group that I'm 
compiling my own bibliography.  He asked me if it's publishable.  
Now I have to break the news to him that it's more of a checklist 
and it's about five pages long.  

ME: Subject: laburnum 

No problem about mustard on the Beatlefan.  

Haven't we seen some of the contents of Mal's notebook?  

Tell me more about your Doyle bibliography in person.  Is that 
books (by) OR (about) OR (by AND about) Doyle?  

Great medley over the jungle beat by the MST3000 guys. Very, very 
humorous.  Also liked the Action.  Disappointed by my man Ben 
Vaughn, not that it was bad, just unremarkable on the first 
listen.  The first Idha song was intriguing.  At first I thought 
it was "Can't Find My Way Home"(?) by Blind Faith.  Then I heard 
music reminiscent of Dylan's "It's All Right Ma..." and *then* I 
heard lyric quotes from that song.  Very strange.  Tell me about 
Small Faces some time.  

Nuts. Hself got his WGS newsletter delivered to his home without 
any postage due requested.  Nuts, nuts, nuts.  I had a little 
chuckle, though.  He called to tell me that my 29 cent stamp must 
have fallen off.  He thanked me profusely, but not enough for me 
to feel bad about the eventuality of him actually opening it up 
and finding the contents replaced with pages proclaiming "THIS 
MACHINE IS OUT OF ORDER."  Man I am funny when I get disgruntled.  
Thanks for your help.  

P.S. subject is a word I read today on the web.  

ME: steel drum update!!! 

Not much to report on.  My friend failed to get Yellow Ledbetter 
to fire up on his computer.  Nutsos.  

I heard a steel drum duo last week.  Not as overwhelming a sound 
as a whole orchestra, but allows for more virtuosity.  These 
things are also called "pans" and I remember I goofed when I said 
they were from Jamaica.  It was Trinidad.  The people there 
devised them from steel oil drums left by the U.S. military as 
litter after WW2.  

THEE: Re: steel drum update!!! 

Too bad you couldn't hear my version of Yellow Ledbetter.  Maybe 
I'll just copy it for you one day.  

Hmm...I may have heard people from Trinidad playing stuff...  so, 
maybe I have heard this steel drum thing.  That's interesting 
about how war led to music.  

Have you ever heard the band BRAD?  I was doing an article for my 
PJ [Pearl jam] newsletter, and found an e-mail address for the 
guy that played bass on BRAD's two albums.  He wrote me back!!! 
His name is Jeremy Toback.  He's going on tour on the west coast.  
He has some solo albums out too.  I got one used for $4 this 
weekend.  Nice sound...good for some background music when you 
are doing something else.  Sort of like BRAD.  Kind of a cross 
between jazz and pop. 

THEE: Re: Freebie Beatle books - friendly reminder.  

acording to my records the re-imbursement went out last 

ME: the poop on tich 

Following up the world-shaking "tich" discussion at your dinner 
table: The Oxford Dictionary gives tich as the main word and 
titch as the variant.  It all started with "Little Tich", the 
stage name of a dwarfish music hall comedian named Harry Relph 
(1868-1928).  He got the second part of that nickname by 
resembling some guy named Tichborne who made a bogus claim to 
somebody's fortune.  We should not have been so fuzzy on tiches; 
there is one with a Beatles tie-in.  He is last in line (as 
tiches always seem to be) in Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and 
Tich, the first of whom had split and so couldn't make the Jan70 
I Me Mine recording session.  For an update - quite surprising, 
actually - on these guys check out 

Apparently they were quite a force for decades - even after Dave 
Dee split.  Speaking of Hselfs, while searching "tich" I stumbled 
on a great site for telling you all about yourself based on your 
name.  Alas, it is not all peaches and cream.  Go to 

The other earth-shattering discovery which got us around to Fu 
Manchu books is that Sax Rohmer ghostwrote Little Tich's 
autobiography.  Go to 

ME: Subject: Freebie Beatle books - friendly reminder.  

Hi there, 

According to my records, I mailed a Beatle-related book which you 
requested and I wasn't reimbursed for the postage.  A couple of 
bucks would cover it.  Cash is simplest.  Thanks.  

THEE: Tich, tich 

Thanks for the Tich poop.  I wasn't confused before.  Now I'm 
utterly baffled.  What's all this Dozy Beaky Mick & Tich 
bollocks?  And as for the analysis of my name, I only agree with 
this part:  "You are inclined to be rather demanding and self-
centred in your personal wants."  Everything else was wrong! 

To answer a question you kindly asked two messages ago, I'm 
compiling a Doyle bibliography for my own use.  It's a chronology 
of his writings.  Here's the first few years (his age ranges from 
20 to 23 during this period--the first Sherlock Holmes story was 
in 1888): 

   Sept. 6:  "The Mystery of Sasassa Valley," Chambers's Journal.  
   Sept. 20:  "Gelseminum as a Poison" (letter), The British 
Medical Journal.  

   Sometime early in the year, Doyle sends "The Haunted Grange of 
Goresthorpe" to Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine, but it is filed 
and forgotten.  

   December:  "The American's Tale," London Society.  

* indicates unable to locate text.  

My current LP listen is "Volume Three" by the Kingsmen, surely 
the best live LP since your Cowsills LP.  I'll have more to say 
about this gem in my notes to "The Best of 'La Di Da' Volume 

History:  The Nixon administration lasted 2,027 days.  This 
past Monday was day 2,028 of the Clinton admin.  Nice one, Bill! 

ME: Subject: re meeting 

Ambivalent about the Scarlatti trio.  Have already invested 
enough work into it to hate throwing it all away.  And I think it 
*might* have possibilities.  I can see trying to make a few lines 
headway for every session and spin through it once or twice 
together.  Then see where we are in a couple of months.  

THEE: Subject: More proof there's no free lunch 

>Thursday August 13 3:54 PM EDT 

Geocities charged in FTC Internet privacy case 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Federal regulators Thursday charged 
Geocities, a popular Internet destination that hosts free Web 
sites, misled its two million members by secretly selling 
personal information about them to marketers.  

The Federal Trade Commission, in its first Internet privacy case, 
said Geocities had agreed to advise customers of its true data 
collection practices and allow them to delete previously gathered 

The company denied the allegations, but said it agreed to settle 
the charges ``in order to resolve the matter in an expeditious 

According to the FTC complaint, Geocities required members to 
fill out a registration form to join the service that included 
name and address and asked ``optional'' questions about income, 
occupation and other areas. The form also asked applicants to 
select whether they wished to receive specific offers and 
products from other companies.  

The choice about products and services was misleading, the 
complaint charged, because information was sold to third-parties 
beyond those specifically mentioned. And ``optional'' information 
was also disclosed without members' permission, the FTC said.  

Although the Clinton administration has generally backed industry 
self-regulation to protect privacy on the Internet, the FTC told 
Congress last month that such efforts were falling short and new 
laws might be needed if the situation did not improve by next 

THEE: Subject: Look up for the condo in Metro Manila 


I found your site with the e-mail address on the net when I was 
searching for a condo in MM. This is the reason why I write you, 
maybe you have any idea.  

My wife and I we are looking for a good condominium in MM for 

THEE: Subject: Guerau 

Congratulations on your Guerau pages! Very nice, and useful. And 
thanks for the reference to my edition. I wonder if you could add 
a link to the Tecla page on Guerau, which could be helpful to 
those who might wish to acquire a copy? It is  

I can reciprocate by placing a link to your page, if you like.  

THEE: Subject: Anything at all?  

I just talked to John Rodgers and he told me that you weren't 
going to have anything to do with the newsletter production this 
time around.  Does that also mean that you have no contributions?  
Let me know, so I can plan on other material.  

ME: Subject: dropping out 

Yeah, John was right.  The newsletter has been causing far more 
pain than pleasure.  On top of almost no hint of appreciation, I 
get complaints.  Enough's enough.  I remember telling you that 
there were disasters associated with 3 out of the last 4 issues.  
Actually, it was 3 out of 3 (starting with the David Russell 
fiasco.) Strike 3.  

I mentioned this was a possibility, but sorry to not be more 
definite about it earlier.  

THEE: Subject: Guerau 

Thanks for the positive comments about my Guerau tablature - I'm 
dead chuffed.  Yes, I'd be more than happy to add a link to Tecla 
from my Guerau page.  It's the least I can do.  Thank you for all 
of your facsimile editions.  

ME: Subject: self-centerd, eh?  

You said the only true statement was, "You are inclined to be 
rather demanding and self-centered in your personal wants."  The 
part about demanding certainly isn't true and the second part is 
a tautology (like, "beans means beans.") 

Tell me sometime how you generate your Doyle bibliography.  (You 
don't have to type it out.) 

Following your forwarded article about Geocities and privacy were 
a message or two from Geocities on the matter.  I still say, 
Hooray For Geocities (although they aren't perfect.)  Just today 
I got an email from one of the biggest names in the world of 
guitar musicology complimenting my Francisco Guerau web pages - 
brung to ewe by geocities.  

THEE: Re:  dropping out 

>On top of almost no hint of appreciation, I get complaints.

What type of complaints?  

As for the appreciation factor, that is not completely true.  I 
think the fact that many more people receive the newsletter than 
go to the meetings shows that people do, in fact, like the 
newsletter and like to get it to stay in touch with what's going 

Yeah, sometimes it seems to be more labor than love, but that's 
the way it is.  I'll tell you this much, I'll miss working with 
you on the newsletter.  You brought an eye for detail that I do 
not have.  Heck, you may just want to play a game the next time 
you get a newsletter and see how many things I missed. :) 

I understand your frustrations and I can't really blame you for 
dropping out.  So I'd like to thank you for the past few years of 
work on the newsletter and your contributions to the society.  

Will you still come to meetings?  

THEE: Subject: The self 

Thanks for your compliment about my self-centeredness.  You know 
that when I want a rarity, I'll move heaven and earth to get it.  

Congrats on the e-mail from the guitar guru.  I'm adding 
that story to my still-small file of web success stories.  

My successes have come from the nutty Doyle discussion group.  I 
had a picky question about a typo in an early novel a few days 
ago, and a couple folks sent me the info within a few hours.  

I generated my Doyle bibliography using a large 
bibliography at the Library of Congress.  That book was broken 
into categories by type of work--fiction and non-fiction, 
letters, and essays.  All I've done is blend everything together 
to have a strict chronology.  If nothing else, my bibliography 
shows that Doyle's word processor was almost always in use.  

I keep forgetting to tell you a nice baseball moment from 
a week or two ago--in an Orioles-Devil Rays (Tampa Bay) match-up 
in Tampa Bay, the O's pulled a floundering pitcher.  The stadium 
loudspeaker blasted "TtR."  [Ticket to Rode]  Nice!  I guess 
"IaL" [I'm a Loser] would have been too mean.  Fortunately, the 
O's still won.  

As I write, the president has just finished his testimony.  He 
will address the nation in three hours.  

What promises to be a weird TV experience will be on in a few 
weeks--a 30-minute documentary about JOL's [John Onon Lennon] UFO 
encounter.  More details soon! 

ME: Subject: Thanks! 

I received the postage, plus *very* generous tip - much 
appreciated! There are still some dregs left on my freebie 
Beatles book page.  

ME: Subject: My plans didn't come together.  

It looks like it's not to be.  After filling out your application 
form, I couldn't turn up any airfare cheap enough to leave 
anything for me after working for the month or so.  

Thanks for bearing with me.  

ME: Subject: Down, but not out.  

Thanks for the kind and supportive and sympathetic words.  For 
the record, I beat my head against the wall in every other arena 
of my life, not just guitar.  I was born to beat my head against 

Yeah, I'll still be at the meetings.  I'm not giving up on the 
society.  Of course, I'm disappointed that we haven't managed to 
spark a little enthusiasm in, say, 1% of the area guitarists - in 
which case we'd be bursting at the seams.  

THEE: Subject: What are the Vihuela tuned chords and scales???  

I accidentally found your web page. It is pretty good except for 
the tablature being "upside down."  But the reason I am writing 
you is because I want to know what the chords and scales are for 
this type of tuning. Please refer me to a link or let me know 
where I can optain some literature.  

Thank You, 

P.S. I bookmarked your page.  

THEE: Re: Thanks! 

You're welcome! I really enjoyed the book you sent me. If you 
have any other Beatle related ones, send them along.  The extra 
"tip" was to make up for my fellow receivers who didn't live up 
to their end of the bargain.  Cheers! 

THEE: Subject: Feedback 

Dear Mr. Sauter, This is just a brief note to express my 
gratitude for your fine work on your web site, thanks for your 
contribution to the guitar world, the arts and the internet 
community.  Best, Jorge Guillen Associate Professor University of 
the District of Columbia 

THEE: Thanks for the Memory 

You are a friend, indeed.  I commend you for stepping in when 
you're friends had trouble these last few days.  Lordy, I know 
I've called on you for help numerous times over the years.  Keep 
up the good work!  I hope your friends are feeling better now.  

My current read is "I Owe Russia $1200" by Bob Hope.  It's a 
1963 memoir of his world travels.  It's actually a treasure trove 
of significa.  He makes a few cracks about the George V Hotel.  
He uses and defines the term "Slickee Boy" (street urchins who 
will pick your pocket in Seoul, S. Korea), and now I'm reading 
about a tour he undertook that included Molly Bee, my favorite 
country singer.  I also learned what an Evanrude (sp?) is.  I 
didn't think I needed to know until the "MST3K" [mystery science 
theater 3000] boys used the term in last week's movie.  

ME: Subject: great movies.  

Things are going well on the hospital scene.  Hself's kinked 
intestines are straightened out.  Hself's inflamed pancreas 
might be put right by 2 days without food.  (Sounds a bit too 
easy to me, but what do I know.) The hospital trips were 
interesting.  I was impressed by how hard everybody seemed to be 

Listened to a bunch of Beach Boy songs on the jukebox at 
McDonald's in Dale City with Hself on Tuesday.  Some of the labels 
are missing, so I was generating a list of the mystery songs that 
go with the 3-digit numbers you punch in.  About 8 were Beach 

To me, Evinrude is a motor, mostly or wholly associated with 
motor boats.  Is that it?  

Which brings to mind Gorgo.  That's a movie I remember seeing in 
a theater as a kid (putting it in a rarefied class.)  I can't say 
that I remember it being great - just the opposite, probably - 
but it does have a special place in Sauter folklore; don't ask 
me why.  Just the last time I was up in Baltimore for a cookout 
at my brother's, a neighbor boy dropped by.  He mentioned 
something about a Godzilla toy (is there a current version out, I 
guess?) and I had to inform him that Godzilla wouldn't have had a 
chance against Gorgo.  Only the Sauter kids knew what I was 
talking about.  

ME: Subject: guitar pages; Washington Guitar Society.  

I'm pleased you like my site.  It's nice to hear the occasional 
positive feedback.  I was wondering, if you're interested in 
guitar pages, are you a guitarist, and do you know about the 
Washington Guitar Society?  It's short notice, but our get-
together tonight will be an ensemble session - working up a piece 
by John Duarte, and putting it on tape.  It's for the fun of it, 
and the more the merrier.  It's at 7:30 at Briggs Memorial 
Baptist Church, on Mass. Ave, 1/2 block outside of the D.C. line.  

THEE: Subject: Re: great movies.  

I'm glad to hear that your buds are doing well in the hospital.  
No trip to the hospital is fun, I guess, but it sounds like your 
friends got off relatively easy.  

We're having a mellow Saturday here.  I'm going to get back to 
Bob Hope's book in a little while, I, uh, hope.  

Did I mention that I saw "Gorgo" within the last year without MST 
[mystery science theatre] enhancement?  Leonard Maltin, in his 
heavy film guide, actually likes the movie and gave it three 
stars (out of four), so I taped it when it was on.  Maltin was 
sporty enough to appear as a guest on "MST" and take some abuse 
for his quirky taste.  "Gorgo" is a classic for me because it 
features the late great William Sylvester, who played Dr. Heywood 
Floyd in "2001:  A Space Odyssey" eight years later.  On the 
"MST" broadcast, Mike tried to do a tribute to Sylvester, based 
primarily on this fact, but the robots just weren't interested.  

Now I must weed through the eight Arthur Conan Doyle Society 
messages I have.  They're all relating to a story I haven't read 
yet, so I'm deleting merrily.  

I'm looking forward to visiting on Tuesday.  I'll bring LPs, but 
they'll be classical.  Sorry.  

ME: Subject: surf music 

Hself didn't get off quite so easy after all.  She had surgery at 
2:30 am Saturday to patch up holes in her duodenum.  A problem 
down the line is that her arthritis medication is implicated in 
her problems, so the question is, what will she do about her 
arthritis?  For no informed reason, I'm concerned that she might 
have great difficulty getting back on track, what with pancreas, 
lung, duodenum and arthritis problems.  The optimistic view is 
that they are all interrelated and one magic bullet will do the 

On a brighter note, we had a great time at Hself's annual musicale 
yesterday.  (We is the guitar trio and everyone else there.)  Hself 
is a harpist and the musicales have historically been harp-heavy.  
One of the musical acts (harp and guitar, although the guitarist 
played a bongo-like drum on this piece) played Miserlou, so I had 
to think of you.  I didn't know it was a quasi-Greek folk tune; 
just thought it was a standard workout for surf bands.  It's 
still not a tune that I recognize or could hum out of the blue, 
although it sounds vaguely familiar when I hear it.  

Why'n'cha tell me you were a Gorgologist?  Recount the plot to me 
some day.  All I remember is Gorgo smashed a movie theater 
playing "Gorgo".  Wow, that's like an Escher picture, or 

THEE: Subject: Dyonald 

Thee Dyonald, 

Sorry to hear about Franken's sister Phyllis (this is a quote 
from "Yellow Submarine"!).  I hope it all works out.  Hself had 
some occasional run-ins with conflicting medication--her biggie 
was that she was allergic to one of the best antibiotics.  

Needless to say, I'm extraordinarily mellow about Tuesday.  
Keep me posted.  I'd like to know whether I should come over 
before I actually get in the car but aside from that, I'm easy.  
(I'm even easy about driving over and not finding you there, if 
it comes to that.) 

Let's see if the internet Movie Database has a plot summary 
for "Gorgo."  Ahem,  

A salvage vessel is nearly sunk off the Irish coast by an 
undersea earthquake. A few nights later, a walking sea monster 
tangles with the fishing boats and enters the town. The salvage 
vessel captures Gorgo and takes it to London for display. Gorgo's 
mother, who is upset and significantly larger follows his trail 
to London leaving a wake of destruction in her path.  

Yeah, that sounds right.  

"MST" had a huge stinker on this weekend, "Puma Man" ("L'Uomo 
Puma," (1980)).  Star Donald Pleasance kept calling him "Pyuma 
Man." "Yeah, whatever, Dyonald," said the MST gang.  Then 
Pleasance said, "He is still a human being!"  MST:  "Shouldn't 
that be hooman, no, wait..."  Good stuff.  

THEE: Subject: Guitar 

Dear Mr. Sauter, Thanks for the invitation in the ensemble 
session! but it came to me as a short notice, perhaps next time!. 
About your question; yes, I am a classical guitarist and I know 
about the WGS. Please let me know about the WGS next events.  

ME: Subject: binding machine smashed 

Just kidding about the binding machine.  

So is Puma Man pronounced pooma?  I'm confused.  My web 
searching left me even more confused as to what a Puma Man is.  
Software of some sort? 

Web searching also did not illuminate Betty Rollin's legs.  

How come didn't give the plot to Gorgo Meets Godzilla, 
or The Gorgon, for that matter.  Man, I'm still no better at 
making sense of crowded, busy web pages than a year ago.  

My next web offering will be a large batch of pieces by Mozart in 
ascii tablature never before heard by man.  How can that be, you 
might well arsk.  

THEE: Subject: Guerau links 

Sorry about the delay putting up a link from my Guerau page.  I 
made the modification right away, but uploading is very 
cumbersome for me, so I usually wait till I have a few files 
ready to go.  

I found lots of interesting reading at your site.  

My next ascii tab offering will be a large batch of Mozart pieces 
never before heard(???) 

THEE: Gorgo vs. Puma Man 

Puma Man is the protector of the Aztecs.  He's a man with 
incredible powers!  He can fly!  Ooh, what an awful movie.  It 
opens with an Aztec guy, knowing that Puma Man has been 
reincarnated as an American, throwing Americans out of high 
windows to see if they can land on their feet like a cat or puma.  
Only after 10 tries or so does he find the right guy.  

Shouldn't "puma" be pronounced like, uh, doom-a?  That was the 
joke in the movie.  Some Britisher kept saying "pyuma." 

I had a fine evening last night.  We took care of a little 
backlog and did some archive indexing.  I don't need anything 
more from life these days.  

Now it's back to work.  

THEE: Re: Guerau links 

Many thanks! I find your site interesting too.  

THEE: Subject: Sears Guitar Query 

I just read your page on the Sears catalog guitars, and enjoyed 
it very much. I am trying to find some information about a guitar 
that I believe was sold through the Sears catalog. I cant seem to 
find anything specific about a mid to late 1950's, possibly into 
the 1960's, Sears guitar with the Hawiian 'motif' and pearl 
(looking) fingerboard, and pickguard. If you have ever heard of 
these, please mail me back. Thank You in advance for any help you 
may give.  

THEE: Subject: Exercises 

Great site.  I'm looking to enhanace my right hand.  Just started 
classical instruction after playing for 25 years.  Sometimes I 
have learned my lesson and would love some neat exercises.  Any 

ME: Subject: Offenbach's Barcarolle from the Tales of Hoffmann 

Just plugging away.  My next tablature project has turned into 
something much bigger.  Don't they all.  I found a copy of 
Mozart's Musical Dice Game at the Library of Congress.  It's 
dated 1802 and represents another great LC thrill.  Now that I 
have an original, though, I was compelled to check the guitar 
transcription with a fine tooth comb.  When you present something 
to the world, everything must be as perfect as possible - 
everybody on the web knows that.  Just kidding about the 
original; I made a copy.  But remind me to rant about recent LC 
experiences in person.  

I should say that the card catalog card says "although it is 
known from his sketchbook that he experimented with this idiom, 
the attribution is doubtful."  C'mon, man!  It's in his 
sketchbook; it sounds just like him; and the cover says "W. A. 
Mozart" as big as life.  Why do we insist on ascribing late-20th-
C.-type dishonesty to all previous eras as well?  

On the subject of truth, keep the National Enquirer stuff 
flowing.  While it surely is not impossible, Germany is probably 
the *least* likely birthplace for a John Lennon daughter born in 
Oct65 of any country on earth.  

Read one Sherlock Holmes story.  It was about a diamond.  It 
depended greatly on 19th century hi-fi sound reproduction.  What 
do we know about that?  

THEE: Lennon &tc.  

I want to hear about your confrontations at the L of C.  
When can we rock in the near future?  

When I went to the library, they delivered both books I 
requested in 20 minutes or so.  The one I really wanted to see is 
very rare, apparently, even though it was published in 1983.  I 
was much impressed.  

The Lennon baby story was bizarre.  I think the mother is 

Initial comments on Billy Tipton: 
There's a five-year discrepancy in his birthdate.  The 
"Times" obituary says 1914.  The LP says 1919.  It's creepy how 
the LP liners refer to Tipton's boyish appearance, although 
obliquely, and the obit. notes that people sometimes teased 
Tipton about it.  Thanks so much for that obituary, by the way.  

In indexing the LP, I find that I have a bunch of other 
versions of all songs but two.  Some of the versions are strange 
indeed.  I note that the only other version of "The World Is 
Waiting for the Sunrise" I have is by the Beatles.  I have no 
memory of such a thing.  I'll have to look it up.  

My current LP listen is "It's a Beautiful Day...Today" (1973).  I 
bought it in November 1995.  

THEE: football

You have either never played the game or suffered a severe head 
injury in doing so.  

ME: Subject: Das maedchen von Ipanema.  

Don't know if I ever mentioned, I'm back up to 14,400 baud.  
Bummer is, I have the same problem with this modem as the old one 
- text gets garbled after about 9 screens worth when downloading 
in the ascii mode.  I figured this was something wrong with the 
other modem.  Now I'm really confused.  

Nothing stays the same.  An easy way to get to my web site is 
simply to search on my name in yahoo, I would tell people.  It 
would come up with one hit - my home page.  Now it comes up with 
13 hits - none of them any of my pages.  Actually, it lists 12 of 
13 and when you try to click on the remainder, there isn't 
another one.  (???) 

Played with my mandolin friend yesterday.  As a matter of course, 
the subjects of My Bonnie and the Sheik of Araby were brought up 
by him.  

Did some fun binding today.  Also operated on one of your 
records, a Westminster classical sampler, with a straight pin.  
Big improvement.  

Kidding about Astrid, right?  

ME: Subject: Mozart's Musikalisches Wuerfelspiel 

I found your "prerelease" page on randomly composed music.  

I notice you have a copy of Mozart's Musikalisches Wuerfelspiel.  
In case you're interested, I've just put on the web a batch of 
waltzes generated from the Musikalisches Wuerfelspiel.  I've also 
put up my program (in BASIC) that generates them.  This, by the 
way, is in a transcription for guitar.  

THEE: Astrid and Don 

Sure I'm kidding about Astrid.  My info is exactly the same as 
your info on this matter.  It just popped into my head that it 
was possible.  Did John know anyone else in Germany who could 
bear children?  

I ran some searches on "Don Sauter."  This is unsettling.  I 
gave up after 40 hits on Yahoo, none of which was right.  

In Hotbot, using the "the person" limiter, I came up with five 
hits, none right.  The first one was to a site called Hippy PORN.  
Remain calm, it's an independent movie that is apparently not 
pornographic.  It features the bands "Medicine Ball, Barbara 
Manning, Unrest, Cop Shoot Cop, Railroad Jerk, Dustdevils, 
Unsane, Red Bliss, Superchunk, The Frogs, Jim Sauter, Don 
Dietrich, and Thurston Moore." 

Lookie, there's "...Sauter, Don..." in that list.  

Thanks for doing all that binding.  I hope you feel free to 
read whatever you want.  The ghost-story book is OK.  There are 
some goodies in there, also some weak stories.  The Doyle 
collection features some of his early work, when he was finishing 
medical school and trying to establish a practice.  The stories 
are pretty good, though he had yet to develop his own style.  I 
particularly like the light "Crabbe's Practice."  The novel at 
the end, "The Mystery of Cloomber," is good.  It has a lot of 
themes in it that Doyle reworked for Sherlock Holmes.  Have I 
told you all this before?  

Do you need a copy of the 1973 LP "It's a Beautiful Day...Today"?  

THEE: Enjoyed the page 

I came across your page while looking for Monopoly information.  
Somehow I've become addicted to an old Macintosh version that I 

I enjoyed the comments.  

ME: Follow-up to the Beatles-related Straight Dope column 

I see you have a link to the Beatles-related Straight Dope column 
from some months back.  This was a source of tremendous 
frustration for me, as Cecil made probably his biggest goof-up 
ever and wouldn't acknowledge any of my attempts to set the 
matter straight.  Maybe you can see fit to working this into the 
Misc. Strangeness list.  If you'd like, I could put it on a web 
page, to which you could link.  

Here's the form my effort took in trying to clarify this in the 
Beatles USENET group.  You may edit it how you see fit, or get in 
touch if you want me to alter it somehow, and/or put it on the 
web.  Thanks for listening.  

  Subject: Straight Dope Cecil fumbles Beatles question.  

A few weeks ago, a Beatles-related Straight Dope column was 
brought to this group's attention.  The column read: 

[...  See my page on the subject]

Here's an earlier note I sent you which may have fallen on fallow 

Dear Cecil, 

I'm not a regular enough reader to know how often you blow one.  
(This can't be the first, because I remember you initially 
fumbled the prize-behind-the-3-door problem.)  I don't know Lee 
from AOL.  I don't know his friend.  I do know that he meant to 
say Beatles VI, not Beatles '65.  But thanks, anyway.  Now I know 
what an umbrella is.  

P.S.  I know what *all four* Beatles are holding on Beatles VI.  

P.P.S.  Did you ever make use of my brilliantly sarcastic 
contribution to the exploding bird problem - you know, how a cup 
of rice and 2 cups of water make a gallon of cooked rice?  

P.P.P.S.  How can somebody in my dream explain to me what is 
going on in my dream?  

ME: Subject: start your engines 

Thanks for the Doyle recommendations - I look forward to reading 

Got another big batch of guitar tablature out on the web.  What 
I've done is quite bizarre, but I don't know how many people can 
recognize and appreciate that.  

I buckled down this evening to compare search engines from the 
EZ-Find page.  It wouldn't even successfully kick on 2 or 3 of 
the engines.  Gave up in frustration, as with almost all of my 
web sessions.  I should say, that AltaVista has lots of my pages, 
some very recent, even, which I certainly made no effort to have 

P.S. Webcrawler found "25 of 3" (???) hits.  

ME: good newsletter 

The newsletter looks real good.  Thanks for the nice mention.  
Also, thanks for lending Hself your guitar - she, Hself and I had a 
fun session Saturday night.  

THEE: Subject: Engine down 

I'm glad some of the search engines found your pages.  My 
lack of success was a real surprise to me.  

We did have a good time at the beach.  Two terriers were 
there until Sunday.  The two terriers did not get along with 
Hself the Wonder Dog and I found the whole thing very 
frustrating.  At night, Hself would shake his head, as he 
commonly does, and the two terriers would bark a lot from behind 
a closed door in another room.  

THEE: Subject: Your Campion tablature 

Many thanks for your dedicated and meticulous work on these 
tablatures, and the excellent and detailed notes you provide. I 
have been playing them on  a four-course baroque guitar, and have 
adopted your suggestion of deleting the top line (and also the 
bottom one since it appears to me superfluous - in my case.) I 
find that spaces rather than lines to indicate strings is rather 
confusing, probably because I'm familiar with French tablature, 
which, I assume, was used in the autograph. That said, I wondered 
why you felt it necessary to invent a new one . However, it's 
easy to read or adapt, so I'm not complaining, 

The pieces are, of course, delightful and well worth the effort 
you have made to make them available on your web site. Thank you 
again for your generosity in sharing this "labor of love".  

ME: items 1-8 

Went up to Balt. Co. for a cook-out/in on Sunday.  Crowds are 
older now, so less games and sports and more chitchat.  That's 
ok, but subjected to ever more tv/movies/M-n-c- flapdoodle.  

Devoted a burst of energy to binding, organizing and cataloging a 
backlog of guitar music.  Very satisfying to bring that up to 

Devoted another burst to trimming all the hedges and shrubs 
around here.  

Read all about Dr. Crabbe's scam.  Pretty funny.  

What can you tell me about "Is That All There Is" by Peggy Lee?  

It's actually cold in here tonight.  

ME: Subject: Campion tablature 

You're very welcome.  Thanks for the kind feedback.  I was a little 
disappointed in the overall response to my Campion tablature 
because I feel like it is quite important, besides sounding very 

Sorry the tab needs a little modification for your tastes, but at 
least the electronic format makes that possible.  I like using 
the spaces, rather than lines, to represent strings so that all 
of the fret numbers aren't struck through.  I've seen lots of 
tablatures where where some or all of -0- -3- -8- -6- -9- look 
*very* similar.  Take a look at all my thoughts on tablature in 
  [now ]

I wouldn't say I've invented a "new tablature" - at least the 
aspect of using the spaces.  Many French tablatures used the 
spaces.  It goes way back.  The renaissance guitarists (le Roy, 
Brayssing, etc.) used it.  Dowland used it.  It's used in modern 
editions of lutenists like Dowland, etc.  It's probably used more 
than line tablature in modern guitar publications.  Mel Bay uses 
it in most, if not all, of its fingerstyle guitar editions.  

I use 6 string tablature no matter how many strings the 
instrument has for the sake of consistency.  The 4th string will 
always be represented in the same place, no matter whether you 
look down from the top or up from the bottom.  We don't ditch the 
bottom line of the treble clef if the music doesn't go that far 
down, do we?  

I'd like to think that my tablature, rather then being a "new" 
one, just combines the best aspects of all the tablatures that 
have come along.  You know, one person wrote to say that my 
tablature was upside down.  

THEE: Re: Cecil's Straight Dope 

I've removed the Straight Dope links and will add a link to yours 
within a few days. Thanks! 

THEE: Subject: And what about Number Nine?  


First things first--my parents outdid themselves and 
bought us a new computer as a fifth-anniversary wedding gift.  I 
should have refused but I'm greedy.  Anyhoo, I'm e-mailing you 
from a screen that has a much higher resolution and is bigger.  
Come over sometime! 

I was typing liner notes to your tape ("The Best of 'La 
Di Da' Part Two") at work today when my work computer's over-
sensitive virus sensor went off, claiming that the file DONTAPE 
was polluted with the infamous Wazzoo virus (it really is 
infamous).  I don't believe it, personally.  Anyway, before I 
could exit or something, the virus sensor did me a favor and 
deleted the file.  Obscenity:  Bastards!  That was the low point 
of my day.  

Never heard Peggy Leg's original version of "Is That All 
There Is" but remind me to play you a fairly wacky cover I have 
from the early '80s.  

THEE: Subject: Campion tablature 

>I like using the spaces, rather than lines, to represent strings 
so that all of the fret numbers aren't struck through.  I've 
seen lots of tablatures where where some or all of -0- -3- -8- -
6- -9- look *very* similar.

I'm not sure what you mean here. As you know, French tablature 
can, and often is, written (in letters) *above* the lines 
representing the strings (which, by the way, makes it easier to 
insert figures if needed for unusual fingerings) so some letters 
naturally appear in spaces above the strings on which the notes 
are played. I can't see why, if numerals are used, this could not 
be done just as easily. Re "spaces" or "lines", I suppose it's 
what one gets used to, though a line seems to me to be a more 
visually appropriate way of representing a string. I have not 
seen many Dowland autographs, but the Poulton/Lam book of all 
Dowland's lute music is written throughout in French 
tablature, as described above, as are the autograph facsimiles.  

The Campion was *certainly* worth doing and, on closer 
acquaintance, I already have several favorites. However, as 
usual, the tab. is only the skeleton of the pieces, and I am 
working hard to on the rasguedo and repicco strokes, and 
ornamentation, needed for a reasonably "historically informed" 
performance on the baroque guitar. Indeed, venture to I doubt 
whether these pieces could *ever* be played idiomatically on a 
"classical" guitar.  

I smiled at your remark: << We don't ditch the bottom line of the 
treble clef if the music doesn't go that far down, do we?>>  Really 
Donald, that's pure sophistry!   My baroque guitar only has 
five courses (as, probably, did Campion's) so I'm not depriving 
him of anything! 

A while ago I wrote an essay called "Reading French tablature" 
for Matanya Ophee's web site. It went down like a lead balloon! 
Why are guitarists so unwilling to try anything that's not in the 
tutors? I know what my lute teacher, Robert Spencer, would have 
said: "Because they think the guitar was invented by Segovia!!" 

ME: Subject: always a step ahead...  

The reason I asked about "Is That All There Is" is because I had 
just played your "wacky early 80s cover version" by Christine or 
somebody on ROTR.  [rodney on the roq]  I was hoping you didn't 
know about the original and I could teach you sumthin.  Sigh.  As 
always your pop music brain dumbfounds me.  If you've never heard 
the original, why would you know of it?  And why would anybody 
know the performer of any song they've never heard?  And how 
could you know the cover is any "wackier" then the original?  
Actually, that last one is debatable since the ROTR version 
strives desperately for wackihood. 

Let me understand, your computer system can examine and delete a 
file while you're working on it???  And is there really any 
chance a virus can appear in a simple text file generated by the 
usual word processing programs???  Whew.  

Congratulations on the new computer.  The higher resolution 
actually makes pictures smaller, right?  Coincidentally, I got a 
call from my father this morning saying he got me a freebie color 
monitor for my unused 386.  I had put in a request for one with the 
idea of giving the whole system away.  Also coincidentally, I 
stumbled on a web page today that opens with the bold claim, "If 
you paid anything for your computer - you paid too much." 

About "queuing" being the only word with 5 consecutive vowels 
(this from the "Lucy" page), the Scrabble dictionary has 
"miaouing" (=meowing).  I actually spelled that once, using 2 
blanks.  You can imagine the furrowed brows caused by the 
appearance of MIA_UI_G on the board.  

No problem about postponing our get-togethers.  Best of luck with 
the check-up.  No doubt, everthing's fine.  

THEE: Subject: Even the president must stand...  

Did I give you the LP with that "Is That All There Is" 
cover?!  What must I have been thinking?  Oh well.  I actually 
bought my first Peggy Leg LP at that record convention we went to 
last fall/winter.  it's live.  I'll check today to see if "Is 
That All There Is" is on it.  I assmued the Rodney on the ROQ 
version was wackier because it was fairly wacky.  

Oh, the virus detector on my work computer is a nightmare.  It 
found viruses on files I copied off my Doyle CD-Rom.  Then I ran 
a check on the CD-Rom and it was all clean.  it found a virus on 
something like chapter 87 of "Varney the Vampyre" (one of the 
books you've bound for me) but nothing on chapters 1-86 and 88+.  
I might try to disable the darn thing.  

Graphics do look smaller on the new computer!  They look 
sharper, though.  

Hself dragooned me into teaching an ESL class at a church 
in Mount Pleasant.  (She's taught there for a couple years.)  My 
first class will be Tuesday.  I'm nervous!  So, I'll be doing 
some prep on Monday, and asking her questions.  

As for Lucy bones being named after "LitSWD," [lucy in the sky 
with diamonds] may I quote the sacred line?  Thank you.  Ahem...  

        Do we believe this?  

I have a vague memory that they were named for Leakey's daughter.  

My subject field refers to the old Dylan line that was 
never more appropriate than today.  Please note that my 
forthcoming cassette to you is now named "The Starr Report (The 
Best of 'La De Da,' Part Two)." 

ME: a cheap date 

And I quote: "To laymen the individual quickly became known as 
Lucy, a name taken from a Beatles song popular in the camp." 
(National Geographic, October 1988, p585, col. 2.)  Just happened 
to have that at hand.  Didn't really expect to be able put my 
fingers on it though.  1988 is only 14 years after the 1974 
discovery date, so I'm happy.  (Would be happier if the discovery 
date were 1967.) 

Clarification: you *lent* me the album with the "Is That All 
There Is" cover.  Still yours.  

My best guess is that ESL means "English as a 2nd Language".  If 
so, what is the primary language used in the class to teach it?  

Remember, we already have a president caught, well, not so much 
standing as dancing, in the implied fashion on the cover of Some 
Time In New York City.  Still wondering where they got that 

I'm very proud of my ability to hear no evil, but I get your 
"Starr report" joke, not that I know just what's in a Starr 

Spent an evening at Barnes & Noble with my friend Hself last 
night.  Sampled quite a few albums at the listening stations, 
like a Simpsons album, some historical harmonica recordings, 
Brian Wilson's latest, and that country singer lady from around 
here, I forget her name right now.  Hself was in heaven, which 
isn't so remarkable being a book lover, but keep in mind she's 
worked at a Barnes & Noble in Detroit for the last year.  We got 
50% discounts at the coffee shop.  

THEE: Subject: Barnes and Barnes 

I can send you highlights of the Starr Report if you wish 
but maybe I'll be a pal and not do so.  I plan to read every 
word, not because I'm a pervert but because I don't want to be 
like the guy in my office who passes judgment on the president 
every hour of every day without doing any reading at all.  

I am indeed teaching English as a Second Language.  Since 
I'm a beginner, they've given me a fifth-level class; people who 
already have a grasp of the language.  The students come from 
numerous foreign climes, so there is no one first language.  

This new computer continues to amuse.  It has a built-in 
CD player.  Yesterday I listened to nine tracks of Badfinger's 
"Straight Up" CD.  It was good! 

PS.  I like Barnes and Noble.  Did you see if they had any Arthur 
Conan Doyle rarities?  

ME: Subject: 

Funny you should ask about Doyle rareties.  I almost bought a 
fat, little (3" by 4") Hound of The Baskervilles at the local 
library book store today.  It had illustrations every 4th page - 
maybe 2nd.  Anyhow, he wanted to charge me the going, non-sale 
paperback rate, which is 50 cents.  Heck, the original store 
sticker said "Two for a dollar".  What kind of hayseed did he 
take me for?  

At Barnes & Noble I stumbled on a reprint of the 1897 Sears 
Catalog.  This, coincidentally, has the guitar material that I 
published in the last WGS newsletter (which you never saw), 
although in much better quality.  Durn microfilm...  

Just had a bit of a scare.  I heard some hard objects falling to 
the floor above me.  I just scouted it out and couldn't find 
anything amiss.  [Some days later I determined that it was two 
gun-powder coated "Blaster Balls" which rolled off a shelf onto 
the floor in a closet when the rubber band holding the balls to 
their cardboard packaging dry-rotted and gave way.]  

Just joking about what language were you teaching English in.  In 
any case, it doesn't sound like something I could get up courage 
to do.  

Did my Nat. Geo. research lay the issue to rest?  

Had a miserable time today trying to use the local library's 
computer to print out a few web pages.  

THEE: Elvis! 

You passed up a good "Hound" for four bits?  What could you 
have been thinking?  If you see it again, and the illustrations 
look good, I'll pay you the price plus a 10 percent commission.  
That's 55 cents! 

I'm surprisingly un-nervous about class tonight.  Hself helped 
me plan a little last night so at least I won't find myself with 
nothing to do with the class.  

I keep forgetting to ask you this question:  I'm currently 
reading "Correspondence of F. Scott Fitzgerald."  As you may 
know, the Fitzgeralds were based around the Baltimore area for 
much of the 1930s because Zelda was undergoing psychiatric 
treatment at various hospitals in the area.  For a period in the 
early- and mid-'30s, they lived at a place called Rogers Forge in 
Towson.  Any idea where that is?  

If you want me to try to print web pages here at work, just 
send me the addresses.  I seem to get good results here.  

I watched the first hour of "Elvis Aloha From Hawaii" last 
night.  When broadcast in 1973, it was apparently seen by 1.5 
billion people worldwide.  I'm wondering if any of those people 
liked it.  

THEE: Subject: Wimp rock! 

So I've put my morning here at work to good use--I've been 
searching the Starr report for references to the Beatles.  There 
don't appear to be any.  However, I did find this revelation 
about our president's wimpy musical tastes.  His problem is that 
he doesn't rock! 

In a document composed soon after this visit, Ms. Lewinsky wrote: 
"When I was hiding out in your office for a half-hour, I noticed 
you had the new Sarah McLachlan CD. I have it, too, and it's 

Maybe if Bill collected Dead Kennedys rarities, none of this 
would be happening.  

ME: Bones 

About the "Hounds" book, I did make it clear it's one of those 
cheap, fat little 5-and-dime-store-type books for kids?  I 
presume the text is unexpurgated.  The pictures are line 
drawings, suitable for coloring in.  Ye still interested?  

Don't know Rogers Forge in Towson.  Sounds odd to me.  I wouldn't 
have thought that Towson had finer divisions even now, much less 
in the 1930s.  It's not the name of an estate, maybe?  

Ok, I'll accept your web page printing.  It shouldn't break your 
employer, although that sort of excuse doesn't make me too happy.  
The 2 pages (one of which appeared in my last subject line) are 

Speaking of subject lines, what is Barnes & Barnes?  

I made some additions to my "guitar ramble" web page.  Sound 
pretty blah, huh?  Well, yeah, but still the raciest stuff to 
appear on my site.  You should be credited. 
  [now ]

I haven't proofed it on the web, but it should be in ok shape.  

Still completely baffled by the noise I heard last night.  
Haven't seen anything that fell to the floor.  It wasn't my 
imagination; it was loud.  

THEE: Subject: He's dead, Jim (re:  Bones) 

You make the "Hounds" edition sound less appealing in your new 

Barnes and Barnes were a comedy (?) team of the early '80s.  I 
have one of their albums, and it included an unsatisfactory cover 
of "PPM," [please please me] which I hope I taped for you within 
the last year and a half.  

Teaching went OK last night.  Some of the students' English 
was pretty poor.  A couple guys from Vietnam volunteered 
that they'd been prisoners of war under the Communists.  I had 
tried not to ask questions that might elicit unpleasant memories, 
but they volunteered the information.  The least I can do is try 
to teach them a little English, if I can.  

ME: More tablature talk.  

Thanks for your further feedback, and also the nice entry in my 

Let me have a shot at clarifying some of our discussion.  When I 
say, "using the spaces to represent strings" and you say "letters 
written *above* the lines representing strings", I view that as 
the exact same thing - except, of course, for whether or not the 
1st-string fret characters are boxed in with another line.  I had 
thought in your first note you were stumping for lines striking 
through the fret characters.  

Admittedly, whether another line is used at the top is not 
insignificant.  I know it trips up experienced readers of ancient 
tablatures, but my rationale is that there are many, many more 
readers of modern fingerstyle and rock tablature with the extra 
top line than there are early music enthusiasts; plus it appeals 
to my personal sense of neatness and symmetry and completeness.  

Thanks for making me re-examine my opinion on always using 6-
string tablature - no matter the number of courses on the 
instrument.  Again, in my mind, it boils down to balance, 
symmetry, elegance and standardization.  Yep, I can play from 4- 
and 5-string tablature (whether the strings are lines or spaces), 
but I find very satisfying the notion that a string is always in 
the same place - looking from the top or bottom.  Add to that 
that I - and many others - will always be holding a 6-string or 
6-course guitar when playing music for 4- and 5-course 
instruments.  I'll stand my ground for the time being: there's no 
reason to use different tablatures for guitar music requiring 
only 4 strings, say, simply because one composer is named 
Brayssing and the other Hendrix.  

About Baroque guitar music not working on the modern guitar: I'm 
sure I've had a *great* time doing just that.  The key is simply 
adding octaves above 4th and 5th string notes wherever necessary.  
This is almost always a cinch to do.  My only problem - and I 
doubt most people would agree - is just that the modern guitar is 
so dull sounding.  I get around that by using a modern guitar 
strung with terz guitar strings.  I'm thrilled with the lively, 
bright sound.  In fact, right now I might like this solution 
better than my double-strung, quasi-Baroque guitar.  Not that 
I've given up on that idea; I just think it needs the right 
strings.  Have you read about my quasi-Baroque guitar?  It's at 
  [now ]

If your "Reading French Tablature" article is still out there, 
I'll try and track it down.  

ME: Nhac tay ban cam 

Yep, the Barnes & Barnes cut is on Hself Chronology 24.  The notes 
are dated 5Aug97.  Even though I heard it several times, I can't 
remember it.  I can remember most of the surrounding material 
(Esquerita, Prima, Hicks, Hitchcock...)  Will pull it out again 

Experienced much frustration, as usual, searching the web 
tonight, but also had some fascinating finds.  I was looking for 
the composer of La Cumparsita, a tango in the Vietnamese guitar 
book I bought the other day.  Turns out it was a monster, world-
wide hit, with a very interesting story, to boot.  The 17 year 
old kid who wrote it essentially gave it away in 1917.  He goes 
to Paris, where, in 1924, it's all the rage.  

Likewise, I found a good story to go with the song "Come Back To 
Sorrento" (in the same book).  It has to do with Jeanette 
McDonald being edited out of Paramount On Parade (1930).  

I even got a hit or 2 on a French pop song called Twist 33, by 
Les Fantomes.  Unfortunately, there was nothing besides record 
catalog numbers.  I wanted the composer, at least.  This one 
showed up a new problem.  I can't do a productive search on "les 
fantomes" because there's a ' over the o, which I don't know how 
to do (if I even have the capability.) 

A really confusing one was "Green Fields Of Summer".  I thought 
this was a widely known song, but there was only one hit on it as 
a song title.  By contrast, all of the other song titles I 
searched on yielded page after page of track listings for albums 
people are trying to sell.  A real nuisance.  Still, the one hit 
was, again, quite fascinating.  It formed part of a submariner's 
memory of a former friend who perished in Thresher.  

Before I forget to ask, what is that site where you look up pop 
songs?  I couldn't find it, either looking for it directly, or 
hoping to stumble on it looking up particular songs.  

Oh yeah, I finally discovered what the noise was I heard 2 nights 
ago.  One of my blaster balls [cement balls coated with gunpowder 
that go "crack!" when you throw them up and catch them in the 
same hand] and its package had rolled off a shelf in a closet 
that I opened this morning.  

Bought some $.23 stamps today.  I expect small, drab 23-centers, 
but was handed large, F. Scott Fitzgerald jobs.  

ME: Subject: Ravel 

Once again, great job on the "Transcriber's Art"!  I enjoyed it 
thoroughly.  Interesting, entertaining, informative, eye-
opening...  shocking, almost! 

About the notation of the harmonics in the last measure of the 
Prelude: that wasn't bad, but I have some thoughts on elegant, 
easy-to-read, standardized harmonic notation, if you have a 
moment.  It's at 
   [now ]

THEE: Subject: Notables 

   Well, first, I love this: 


Glad to see I helped inspire two notes in your Guitar Ramble.  
It reminded me to ask if I ever did mention that the museum at 
the edge of Williamsburg (whose name escapes me) is worth 
visiting to see a couple of 18th century guitars.  

I printed out the pages you requested.  They look OK.  Do you 
know the photographer?  

I watched Ring on "Hard Rock Live" last night.  I believe I've 
heard the last version of "La De Da" I want to hear.  I was 
humming along and knew most of the lyrics.  

I must be forgetting something.  

THEE: Re: Freebie Beatle books - friendly reminder.  

Hello Donald, I apologize for being tardy with postage 
reimbursement.  It simply slipped my mind.  I will be posting the 
postage to you today or tomorrow.  I would like to forward the 
book (bio of Joe Orton) to someone else.  Do you have an 
interested party that I could send it to?  

THEE: Subject: BCGS Trivia Contest 

Thanks for playing in the last BCGS Trivia contest.  The winner 
this time was Ferenc Horvath, and his answer and a new question 
are on the BCGS webpage now.  Come and give it a try! 


   #+#  Baltimore Classical Guitar Society 
   _#_  410-247-5320 
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THEE: Subject: More tablature talk.  

>it boils down to balance, symmetry, elegance and 

No it doesn't! It boils down to whether one is prepared to make 
the effort to learn the basics, however difficult they may 
appear and however long it takes. We are talking about music, 
not painting by numbers! I am (and I hope this doesn't sound 
uptight) fed up with the mass of guitarists who seem to want 
everything made "easy" just because they don't know much about 
the guitar and its music, nor have they developed a reliable 
technique for interpreting it. Re tablature per se, trying to 
change it is like trying to re-invent the wheel. If it was good 
enough for Dowland, Corbetta, de Visee et al it's good enough 
for us. A more practical, reason for leaving French tablature, 
which *is* elegant (I'm not so sure about Alfabeto), alone is 
that, once one has learned it, one can read facsimiles without 
trouble. Re your baroquitized guitar, well OK: but, as I'm sure 
you know, there's no way a six-string "classical" guitar can be 
made to sound like a skilfully copied baroque guitar because it 
is not built, strung, tuned or played like a classical guitar. 
(And it costs a lot more! ) To hell with rock tablature. If 
anybody wants to play baroque music let them learn how to do it 
properly, even if it takes years. No doubt this all sounds a bit 
"more authentic than thou" on my part, but as somebody who really 
cares about such things I get a bit impatient with short cuts 
that don't seem to me to lead anywhere useful.  

ME: Subject: Beatle books 

No, it seems no one else put in a request for the Orton bio.  
It's rough, trying to give things away!  Hope you liked the first 

ME: Subject: 1 ringy dingy 

         \|       \| 
That's  ( )  not  ().  On my old fashioned computer, I can even 
put the bowtie, but in recent years it seems they've moved ~ from 
the top of the character space to the middle.  This fact really 
bummed me out when I saw how it goofed up my guitar tablature.  
Had to change from ~ to " for a trill.  

Nope, don't know the photographer.  It's the subject matter - 
dumpster diving and doggies.  

Got a url for that pop songs site?  

THEE: Subject: Entertainment for Don 

'kay, let me try again...  
                                  ( ) 

Wonders what it was I forgot in my last message?  Oh yes,  
songs sung blue... 


Happy researches! 

I'll be in touch.  Keep the e's flying.  I hope to get in some 
good play time with the home computer this weekend.  

We're off to see Beethoven and his rockin' Ninth at the KenCen 
tonight.  Today's "Post" called it the best performance to hit 
town in 30 years.  Do you remember any concerts from that long 
ago?  me neither.  

ME: duh duh duh dumb 

Thanks for the pop song sites.  How embarrassing - I forgot it 
was just the ASCAP and BMI sites.  (Although with my luck, none 
of the search engines would find ASCAP or BMI.) 

Didn't want to embarrass myself with a guess about the proximity 
of Hibbing to Duluth, but it turns out I would have been darn 
close.  I figured about 100 miles north; turns out it's 76.  (Not 
via Highway 61.) A smidgin to the west (I visualized east.) 

I gave The Night Chicago Died a thorough cleaning - no 
improvement! In retrospect, the background noise didn't sound 
cleanable; sounded like rough vinyl.  

"Best performance in 30 years" of the Ninth, or of *anything*?  
Sounds like high praise, no matter which.  

Geocities is starting to bum me out more than a little.  I get 
more people signing my guestbook than what they consider 
"qualified hits".  I'm down to 1.5 per week, by their count.  

THEE: Subject: Anthology 1 

We're enjoying a lazy Sunday afternoon.  I must rouse 
myself and head for the grocery store soon or we shall surely 

I just listened to disc one of "Anthology 1."  My backlog has 
reached a state where it casts me into the distant past.  I'm 
not complaining.  It's just a little hard to keep current.  

Two issues that might be fun to investigate from disc one:  I'd like 
to gather together all my "OA9" [one after 909] outtakes from 1963 
and try to figure out what splicing went into the "A1" montage.  
I'd also like to revisit the Stockholm concert.  As you may know, 
it's bugged me that Macca introduces a song "from our new album, 
released in November" at a concert supposedly in October.  
Really, this has bugged me for about 14 years.  Further to that, 
the photo on page 25 of the "A1" booklet was taken in October?  
Why does the cake say "Merry Christmas"!?  

Has this ground all been covered to death already?  

B9 (Beethoven's Ninth Symphony) was fine.  An ignoramus like 
me was not moved to tears (as my mom claims she was) because 
I was distracted by stuff like having to sit for so long in a 
confined space with a tie on.  Oh well.  Hself, who listens to B9 
practically every day, got a lot out of it.  

I have to log in A1 now.  

THEE: Subject: Guitar and Piano 

I am curious about how to get a hold of the sheet music you 
listed for guitar and piano.  I appreciate any information you 
can provide.  

Thanks for the information packed webpage.  

ME: Subject: a favor 

I keep forgetting to ask: any chance I could have a copy of the 
big Bartolotti passacaille that's in Gallot?  I'm really curious 
about how they compare, plus I have a web use for it in mind.  

THEE: Re: a favor 

Don-- I've been searching back for it and just found part of it 
last night.  In fact, what I found were just a few of the 
variations, not all of them (but--the choicest ones).  There may 
be more variations to be found yet but I found these in his 
first, earlier book, which is harder for me to read though since 
there are alot of alphabeto chords in this 1st book.  The common 
variations I found were in a Chaconne.  In fact, it seems like a 
good idea to pull the best variations together--sometimes when I 
read these passacaglie, I'll only like certain of the variations.  
I have a vague recollection that some of these same 
Gallot/Bartolotti variations are also found in Corbetta! It'll 
take more research to sort all this out.  In terms of what can be 
made of all the correspondences--I think the most interesting 
points have less to do with plagiarism/borrowing issues than with 
how certain catchy techniques become popular; example--2 melodies 
going on simultaneously in two different voices, with a sort of 
drone in one of the voices (sort of like "Recuerdos..." without 
the tremolo).  

I'll make a copy of the Bartolotti Chaconne for you and keep an 
eye out for other excerpts.  

ME: Subject: guitar & piano music 

I have to apologize; I'm no longer trying to sell the guitar and 
piano music.  I should edit that out of my web page.  There 
hasn't been enough interest to make it worth my while.  (I had 
advertised in several issues of Soundboard.)  One day, when the 
price of disk space drops to almost nothing, maybe I'll scan all 
2000 pages and put it on the web for free.  

ME: Freunde, shoener Goetterdunken (worked for Telefunken) 

Now don't get used to daily messages; this is an anomaly.  Guess 
I must really be running out of things to do when I go on-line days 
in a row.  

My WLMD has a live variety show every Sunday night.  It is a 
combo of endearing, embarrassing and annoying.  They even do 
once-only live skits for the commercials.  The talent is quite 
good, actually.  Anyhow, heard a trio called Voxology (good name, 
eh?) do Eleanor Rigby tonight.  

In my pop song searches tonight, found out that the Strawberry 
Alarm Clock's "Barefoot In Baltimore" is in the MPL catalog, as is 
"Sit With The Guru" (the follow-up to Incense and Peppermints.  
Only I know this.) 

Another find was a song "Flee As A Bird".  That's worth a 
chuckle, right?  

I needed the writer of Sweet Hour Of Prayer.  ASCAP (I think it 
was) seems to show that William B. Bradley had about 40 co-
writers.  Come on, web people, make sense!!! 

When you're hurting for something to do, would you do a search 
for me?  This seems like it should be the easiest thing but took 
a gargantuan effort on my part.  Here is the problem.  In my 
Vietnamese guitar book, there is a song titled "Green Fields".  
Assume this is the same song as Greenfields which was a no. 2 hit 
in 1960 for the Brothers Four.  Using the ASCAP and BMI sites - 
and the whole of the web - tell me who the composer was.  To make 
it easier, the answer need not be conclusive, only somewhat 

You ask if your Beatle mysteries have been covered to death.  I 
dare say they've never been noticed by anyone else.  In any case, 
it certainly looks as if the net, the web and the recent spate of 
release of new Beatle product have colluded in some way to snub 
out any remaining activity in Beatles research.  Hey, we got the 
real story from the boys themselves.  Time to spit on the fire 
and call in the dogs.  

How does one hear Beethoven's Ninth, or any symphony, almost 
every day?  

You know, in the guitar world, we have a trio by Leonhard von Call 
from 1805 with a theme very similar to the famous choral part 
from the Ninth.  

THEE: Subject: Hanging 

I got back from Day one at NIH a short while ago.  Hself [the 
wonder dog]  and I are taking the afternoon off.  

PS.  I have B9 on vinyl.  Hself plays it a lot!  That's in answer 
to your question on how one listens to a symphony every day.  

THEE:  I am a classical guitar student of Chile, my hobbie is the 
classical guitar, my profession is geologist, my hobbie is the 
early and baroque music in guitar, and I have very scores for the 
classical guitar of hispanic vihuelist and other baroque 
composers, specially I interesting the spanish vihuelist , my 
question is if you can send me tablatures of them , in special 
Luis de Narvaez and Luis Milan. I could send you scores of 
baroque music. Excuse my english , but the letter is in spanish 

Very congratulations for your page and thanks.  

ME: Hello to a guitar friend 

How are ye doing?  Have you ever visited any of my guitar pages?  
Please do. 
  [now ]

P.S.  I think of you whenever I hear a pun on someone's name, or 
when one comes to me.  

ME: Subject: Bartolotti/Gallot 

Oops, I didn't mean to put you to so much work.  I had the notion 
there was a Bartolotti passacaille which was basically the same 
as the one in Gallot, but maybe without the errors.  Don't go to 
any more trouble than what is fun for you.  

ME: Subject: a guitar link 

Dear CSUN guitar Web, 

Does one nominate oneself for inclusion in your list of links to 
guitar pages?  Mine can be found at 

Nothing ventured, nothing gained, eh?  

ME: Subject: trivia question 

About your new trivia question: 

Answer: Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco is our man.  Extra credit: 
Tonadilla on the Name of Segovia.  

Maybe of interest:  Castelnuovo-Tedesco left out the "J" for a 
25-letter alphabet.  This matches up with a 2-octave chromatic 
scale starting and ending on A.  He got two "melodies" per name 
by matching the letters to a rising and a falling chromatic 
scale.  I read somewhere that he thought Andre Segovia's name 
gave the most naturally beautiful melodies.  

About the last trivia question:  S. L. Weiss was the certainly 
best answer, but Allesandro Scarlatti was also valid.  Ponce's 
Suite Antigua, written in Paris in 1931, was attributed to 
Allesandro Scarlatti.  Segovia recorded 2 of the 5 movements, 
Preambulo and Gavota.  A fascinating article is "Ponce's Baroque 
Pastiches for Guitar", by Peter Kun Frary (Soundboard XIV/3, Fall 
1987, p159.) 

THEE: Subject: Personalized license plates?  

I'll take NOSE!!!! 

It's great to hear from you.  I will check your pages.  I'm 
keeping very busy up here.  I won't be able to make it to 
Montreal for the GFA but everything in it's time. Catch you 

THEE: Re: Bartolotti/Gallot 

Re: "I didn't mean to put you to so much work."  -- Well, it's 
not really a big deal except for the fact that of the two extant 
Bartolotti guitar books, there seems to be a world of difference-
-the 1st being more "work" in the sense that there are few 
interesting parts while the second is truly inspired.  I can 
hardly believe they were written by the same person.  The 
Bartolotti quote found in Gallot comes from the 1st book.  

Re: "I had the notion there was a Bartolotti passacaille which 
was basically the same as the one in Gallot..."  In my vague 
recollection, so did I but in looking back, the excerpts were all 
I've found.  I'll give you a copy.  

THEE: Subject: Overkill 

Do I need to tape this?  Please say no.  

Golden Girls Fri, Sep 25 

What a switch! Beatles fan Dorothy makes music with a player 
(Terry Kiser) in "Beatlemania," but Blanche gets nowhere with her 
date (Ken Howard). Dorothy: Beatrice Arthur. Blanche: Rue 
McClanahan. Sophia: Estelle Getty. Rose: Betty White. Bellboy: 
Biff Yeager.  

30 min (CC) 

ME: Subject: I'm a bad person 

Yikes!  I forgot to offer food and drink!  Must be starting to 
feel real familiar or something (just joking).  I had even taken 
my cake out of the frig.  Sorry about that.  Don't hesitate to 
ask if I slip up again.  

Wish I could dredge my memory for everything Move.  The one thing 
I didn't recount was a snippet of baudy tirade from one of the 
men to another.  Nothing significant, though; nothing compared to 
the Starr report.  I remember when they set up a PA system 
outside and took about 15-minute turns haranguing the police (and 
maybe the world in general.)  As far as we could tell, their only 
income was from washing cars.  I remember some mighty impressive, 
big new cars being washed and wondering about the obviously very 
well-to-do owner actually choosing to go to Move's house to have 
his car washed.  

To be honest, I don't remember the kids being totally naked too 
often.  My memory says they usually had brief-type underwear.  
Regarding the lectures they'd give on the insanity of the modern 
world when you walked by - maybe that's why I am what I am today.  

A fond musical memory of Powellton Village is that for a spell 
there was the drummer for Buff and Company practicing in an 
otherwise empty warehouse on my walk to school.  Just drums.  It 
sounded incredible.  I don't know if he was the world's greatest 
drummer or whether the warehouse did it, but I was in ecstasy.  

Thanks for the personalized Beatle wire service.  When I am 
remiss in saying thanks, that doesn't mean it is in any way 
unappreciated.  About this RnR Hall of Fame - can't we just 
automatically induct everyone who's ever made the top 20 on any 

About the Golden Girls: please record it and edit everything out 
except where Biff Yeager sings, "carry the bloody baggage out..."  
(Nah, give your recorder a break that night.) 

I inadvertantly caught some radio news Monday night and was 
saddened by Florence Griffith Joyner's much-too-premature 

THEE: Fun fun fun 

We were just having too much fun last night to stop for food 
and drink.  I knew I could have gotten a beverage from you if I 
had asked.  

I've had a frustrating morning of web searching.  All I could 
find on Jane Morgan was that she stopped recording in 1966 but, 
of course, a CD greatest-hits collection came out this year.  I 
won't be buying.  

Again, it was a great time.  Thanks also for the Move memories.  

THEE: Subject: testing 1234;  testing 1234 

Donald, if this is you and you get this message, it's me, Hself 
and this is the first e-mail I've sent!  Want to come to Mom and 
Daddy's on Sunday at 1:30?  Better call on the phone, because I 
haven't gotten to the part about getting e-mail yet....oh, give 
it a try, maybe I'll figure it out by then.  

ME: Subject: do you read me dogwood gardens come in dogwood 

Your first email was a smashing success.  Well....  

It *was* beaten out by old technology.  Mom called this morning.  
And that after more wonder-technology (my answering machine) 
failed to do its duty last night.  

If you get this message, click on these for the latest additions 
to my website (if your mailreader will let you).  Hot off the 
  [now ] 
  [now ]

By the way, where'd you get my email address?  I'm impressed.  

P.S.  Here is what your historic message looked like: [...]

ME: Subject: getting to know your own brother

Heard a pretty nice "Good Vibrations" on WWMD I had never heard 

When you say "of course" about Jane Morgan's cd, is that serious, 
jokey or somewhere in between?  Is there a cd for every performer 
who made the charts once or twice decades ago?  

Did we notice that the "The Night Chicago Died" was produced by 
our very own Mitch Murray?  

Went up to Baltimore today.  Some family are now 
online, so there was much conversation about the web and net.  (I 
failed in my attempts to make clear what the net and the web are, 
and how they relate to each other.)  Hself had sent her historic, 
very first email to me a few days ago and successfully received 
my response, which was produced at dinner.  Her grandson Hself 
signed my guestbook.  Hself's comment in my guestbook gave me 
bemused pause, whatever that means.  If you're interested, 
  [now ]

ME: Subject: kid's stuff 

Thanks for visiting my happy home on the web.  I've got all 
kinds of pages for kids.  What about my favorite personalized 
license plates: 
  [now ]

Or how about my "profile in courage": 
  [now ]

You want to write my "roofball" page for me?  Looks like the 
world's gonna have to wait till next summer.  

In the mean time, here's some good, old-fashioned computer 
graphics to tide you over.  Identify these movie stars: 

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           |.-- --.|      THE SKY!
           |(o) (o)|
          (|       |)
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|  |/)      `.___.'
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  \/\      /\ \ / /\
   \ \    /\ \ ^ / /\    THERE'S A
    \ \  / |  |0_/\_ \    SNAKE IN
     \ \/ /|  | \  /\ \    MY BOOT!
      \  / |  |0//\\ \ \
       \/  | /   \ |  \ \
           |/ .-. \|  / /
        .-'|-( ~ )-| / /   HI!
        \  |--`-'--|/ /   MY NAME'S WOODY!
         \ |       | /
          \|   |   |/
           |   |   |
           |   |   |     HOWDY PARDNER!
           |   |   |
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           |___|___|     YEEEHAH COWBOY!
          *|   |   |*
          /'  /|\  '\    SOMEONE POISONED
     jgs /   /^ ^\   \    THE WATERHOLE!
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                       |`.     .'|       AND BEYOND!
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   '"' jgs `-----'   `-----'     '"'

Donald Sauter. 
[now ]

THEE: Possible program 

It's not too critical yet but we've got to start thinking about 
our Nov. 15 gig at the UU Church.  As a preliminary step, I've 
listed possibilities.  Since it's on computer, it's easy to 
modify, which I invite you to do. I've no great attachments to 
anything here so add or delete as inspired. No need to get back 
right away on this (we can discuss at our next meeting). You 
could get back, though, on preferences for our next meeting--this 
Fri. or Sat?  You might let me know, too, whether you'd like to 
finish recording the Chobanian pieces or go on to something new.  

Set I
  3 Renaissance pieces -- 4'30"

Set II
  Cardoso 'Gotan' -- 1'45"  (the one played at Kim's get-together)
  Bach trio       -- 2'40"

  Houghton pieces we played at Kim's -- around 5 minutes  
    or one from above plus --
  Paulsen Prelude (time--?)
Set IV
 2 out of--
  Blanchard's Rondo  --  2'40
  Morricone's Canone --  2'20
  Pilsl #2           --  1'40

THEE: Re: Possible program 

I'd like to get a better recording of those pieces we did at the 
meeting and finish up the other ones...  

For the church: I have no idea what kind of church service this 
is, but at catholic services any instrumental pieces are usually 
quiet, meditative and non-dissonent.  When people are leaving, it 
can be a robust fanfare type thing.  To be honest, I wouldn't 
have a problem with just playing a bunch of *real* easy pieces 
that we can sight read on the spot, and not worry about it. (At 
least that's what I used to do when I did it regularly at my 

But if we must choose from our past repetoire, everything except 
the Marricone looks OK to me. Again, I don't know what kind of 
service this is....  

THEE: Subject: Friday's o.k.  

Friday is fine with me & working on recording Chobanian is also 
o.k.  As for the upcoming program, I'm just guessing that the UU 
[something unitarian] Church is not quite as formal as a Catholic 
service & thus we wouldn't have to stick to "quiet, meditative" 

Re:  ... I wouldn't have a problem with just playing a bunch of 
*real* easy pieces that we can sight read on the spot...  

The Renaissance pieces are the closest I have to fitting the 
above description & I don't have a big bunch like them but I'll 
look to see what I have. Our success in public performance seems 
to depend less on the technical level of the piece but on other 
things (going on cold versus getting to warm up, the temperature 
of the room, & who knows what else...!?  

Guess neither of you two think it'd be good to do Morricone! 

THEE: Hi there... nice page on Aguado.. :) 

I am a senior in HS.. and i took Spanish 4 this year... and we 
need to do a report on something in spanish that we had interest 
in.. well i play the guitar.... for about a year now... and i was 
going to bring in my guitar and do one of Aguado's pieces... i 
was wondering if you had a wav file or if you could possibly make 
one for me and send it to me so i can learn it? Thank you!!! 

THEE: Subject: Jane Morgan's greatest hits 

I got spammed with about 60 messages from the arthur 
Conan Doyle discussion group over the past few days.  Ah well, 
there are worse things, but I do feel obliged to read them all.  

I was making a sarcastic comment when I said "of course" 
regarding a Jane Morgan compilation CD.  it does seem that 
everyone gets his or her own CD eventually.  The listing was 
real, or as real as anything outlandish on the web is.  I haven't 
seen one for Pat Suzuki yet, though.  

We listened to Jane Morgan's LP a little bit in the car 
ride back from the beach last night.  I don't regret what I did 
to that LP last Friday evening--I tossed it! 

Do you have Wire Train's LP "Between Two Words"?  

I listened to Brian Wilson's new CD, "Imagination."  I like it! 

Back to Doyle.  

PS.  Thanks for the look at your sister's guest book sig.  That 
was nice.  

ME: Subject: Frederick Douglass 

It looks like Hself hasn't mentioned Phyllis' invitation for us to 
help her out with a concert at the Frederick Douglass house on 
Saturday Oct 17 at 5:00.  I hope that works around Hself's 
sports.  If so, do you still have the Justin Holland duet I gave 
you?  I think that would be a good fit.  

Any chance, some of my stuff got mixed in with yours after the 
WGS meeting?  I can't see how it could, but for the life of me I 
can't find 3 pages of Bartolotti tablature that Bev copied for 

ME: Subject: The most points for any round is 10...  

Thanks for the ACD article.  Pretty interesting - never knew that 
about "transpire" - but couldn't half a screen have handled it?  

I looked at some of my pages at the local library a few days ago 
and am truly depressed at what geocities has done.  The geocities 
notice I put on every page counts for nothing; the geoguides I 
put on some of my main pages look horrible and fill up slowly; 
the pages that don't have geoguides get a big pop-up *every* time 
you click on them (even internal links!); despite the notice 
*and* the pop-up ads *and* the geocities "watermark" *and* the 
horrible-looking trash they put at the bottom of the page, I 
don't even get credit for visits to those pages!  Like having to 
smash down pop-up ads after every click will attract billions of 
surfers to geocities.  Good grief.  

By the way, do you, representing the world at large, know that 
disabling javascript in your browser will prevent pop-ups?  

Nope, no Wiretrain lp here.  Why do you ask?  

The intergalactic battle of the millenium question: if a blank-
slate, musically sophisticated alien touched down and was given 2 
albums, Jane Morgan and Revolver, to compare track by track...  
Awww, fergit it.  

New and important!!!: 
  [now ]

(Disable javascript.) 

THEE: Subject: It was inevitable.  

From Peter E. Blau's "Scuttlebutt From the Spermaceti Press" 
(online version): 

"Rodger Baskerville's Lonely Hound From Hell" is a two-act 
rock opera, with lyrics by Wanda and Jeffery Dow, performed by 
the Willie Nelson Oratorio Society (aka Wanda and Jeffery) to the 
music of Sgt.  Pepper's Lonely Hearts Band [sic] (aka John 
Lennon, Paul McCartney, and George Harrison) during the Sunshine 
State Sherlockian Scion Symposium in Florida in May.  And the 
lyrics, with an introduction by Tom Stix and some amusing 
production notes, are now available from the DOws at 1737 Santa 
Anna Drive, Dunedin, FL 34698; $6.00 (to North America) or $8.00 

THEE: Subject: Whatever transpires 

Checked out your new page and, alas, don't understand geetar 
stuff.  I will visit your page every day to rack up hits.  

Why Wiretrain?  They do a cover of a song.  I'll leave 
you in suspense until the next tape.  

I'm pleased as punch to report that "The Starr Report--
The Best of 'La Di Da' Part two--The WORD.Wazzu Years" is now 
complete.  Now I have to get it to you.  What are you doing next 

That's basically it.  


   Re: Virtues of tab (long)  
   Author:   Charles Ulrich
   Date: 1998/09/24
>    In spite of this denial by various advanced players, you won't find
>    many people to disagree that tablature is much easier to get started
>    reading than music.
>    That's not a fault of tablature. As shown above, tablature can show
>    everything that music does - all note durations, dynamics, accents,
>    fingerings, etc.
>    Transcribing old tablature to music always raises questions about the
>    composer's intentions.
>    4. Doesn't tablature stifle creativity? With music you can change the
>    fingerings to personalize a piece. In tablature, you would have to
>    rewrite the passage.
>    This may come as a surprise based on the foregoing, but I don't make
>    the blanket claim that tablature is always, or even generally, easier
>    to read than music. In the special case of our standard guitar tuning
>    I find that reading music is easier - with an important stipulation:
>    the music is fingered, and fingered to my liking.
Wouldn't it help the case of promoting the legitimacy of tablature to
avoid referring to standard musical notation as simply "music"?

ME: Subject: virtues of tab 

Good catch!  I stumbled on the tab discussion which quoted from 
my web page.  I have changed "music" to "music notation" 
throughout that page.  (To my credit, I see that there were 
already several occurrences of "music notation".) 


THEE: Subject: tangos, etc.  

Thanks for the nice social hour this morning.  Here are a few 
followups to some of the conversation in the following emails 
with subjects sorrento, decurtis and cumparsita.  If you don't 
read them, you will suffer 0 years bad luck.  

Donald Sauter. 
[now ]

P.S. I think I forgot to send this one first.  

THEE: Re: tangos, etc.  

Thanx heaps for the seven-page "short history".  I found it 
very interesting.    

ME: Subject: DS breaks vow of silence 

Went to the Renaissance festival on Saturday.  Spent almost a day 
of my life laughing (and probably 75% of the acts I had seen 
before.)  If you and Hself go, let me know - I am 
uncharacteristically eager to make recommendations.  

No need to make mindless visits to my website to "rack up hits"; 
the point was that geocities ignores virtually all of the visits 
to my site (in spite of all I've done for them.) 

Heard a newsbite on the radio today that would be old hat to you: 
P*nthous* (I think) offering gobs of money for dirt on 
congressmen.  Get 'em all says me.  Not only is this well and 
truly and perfectly just (in a world almost devoid of justice), 
it could have the blessed side effect of finally getting 
everybody to scream in unison "ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 

Still curious if "disabling javascript" is in your bag of tricks?  

P.S. Wouldn't touch this one, eh?  If a blank-slate, musically 
sophisticated alien touched down and was given 2 albums, Jane 
Morgan and Revolver, to compare track by track...  

THEE: Subject: Sounds of silence 

This weekend I've suffered from an upset stomach and 
lower back pain, two unrelated ailments that combined to make me 
a real grouch.  Both have shown signs of easing today.  What's 
with lower back pain?  Am I a big oldie?  

Issues--I don't understand Java at all, but I have a 
feeling life would be better if I knew how to disable it.  I 
don't.  You must come over and show me.  

If I were an alien and I could only choose two LPs, I'd 
go with "Revolver" over Jane Morgan.  A lot of the songs on 
"Revolver" are good, after all.  Of course, after hearing "TNK," 
[tomorrow never knows] I might be tempted to jump back in my 
spaceship and incinerate the Earth as I flew away.  

THEE: Subject: Mudarra Tablature 

Thanks for providing an excellent source for the music of Alonzo 
Mudarra. I have downloaded all of it and converted it to .TAB 
format which can be used by any of three popular type setting 
programs. "TAB", "Fronimo" or "String Walker".  

I intend to offer it to the Lute net (giving you the credit of 
course). Your tablature was so consistently written, that writing 
the program to interpret it was quite straight forward.  

As it happens, I am gradually making available all the solo works 
from Luys Milan. I have Fantasias 1 to 14, 16 and all 6 Pavans so 
far (and tento 3 I think). You probably have them already, but 
let me know if not, and I'll mail them in electronic format. They 
are corrected a bit, but only where errors are obvious in the 

THEE: Subject: John Williams Concert 

If you don't know already.... John Williams is playing a concert 
Saturday night at 8 pm at Lisner Auditorium (21st and H St., NW - 
George Washington University).  Tickets are $25, $30 and $35 and 
are available from Ticketmaster at 432-SEAT.  

At last report, the organizers were extremely concerned because 
there weren't nearly enough advanced sales to break even on this 
concert.  What a sad statement on the Washington Guitar Scene 
that would be if we can't get enough people out of their houses 

If this concert is not a sucess, it may keep other presenters 
from bringing in world class guitarists as well.  SOOOOOOO..... 
if you haven't bought your tickets, do it now and even if you 
can't make it... spread the word.  

ME: Subject: o u t spells out 

About that music poll, 30 years takes us back to October 1968, 
right?  The Beatles only had a year-plus to go.  Were the pollees 
being that picky, do you think?  Anyhow, you're right to be 
shocked at the results.  Surely the correct answer is 
Springsteen, who spawned a thousand clones (which actually made 
them artistic offspring of Dylan, but *they* didn't know that.)  
Then again, just think of all the people who incorporated Bowie's 
"sense of otherness" in their own music.  

Coincidentally, I saw a Life publication on the news stand today 
about the most important 100 people in the last million years.  
Riffling through, I didn't see any Beatle references, but I 
didn't expect to since the Beatles barely squeaked into Life's 
100 most important people of the 20th century.  I was a bit 
burned by that at the time, but now I wonder how anybody could 
even pretend to make meaningful comparisons.  

I gave Hself Chronology 28 another spin tonight (and inserted 
stolen music from your record collection between the highlights.)  
Here are some comments.  I agree, the value of P. Como's Red 
Sails In The Sunsight is "incalculable".  I like it, and it 
survived in totality.  Don't know if I've heard the slow intro 
before.  One of the things that makes it special is that I have 
an old (original?) sheet music edition (1935).  Good song.  

You said "no Dylan connection" with regards to Bromberg's "New 
Lee Highway Blues".  Criminy, it's almost a Dylan pastiche.  
Bromberg sounds like such a mean son of a gun on these cuts.  I 
liked the goofy Bromberg on the Holdup better.  

About the Craig Torso show: no, Beatle Christmas record material 
didn't naturally come to mind.  Even after digging for it, I'm 
not sure what you heard.  By the "Wunderers" advert, do you mean 
"get wonderlust (one of us?) for your trousers..."?  I presume 
we're not talking about the Ravelers "Jam Jaws (Jars?)" song.  

I have a "Give Booze A Chance" on a tape somewhere.  Yours sounds 
shorter.  Did the Bonzos do a studio version?  

About the 2nd batch of MST3000: you thought the turkey jokes were 
a scream, but I'm in the dark.  What means "housed in a beautiful 
redress parking ring"?  

Truly amazed if you found all that 70s and 50s history in 3 
minutes.  Search engines are still leaving me fit to bite nails 
(the carpenter kind).  

Would going to the Renaissance festival count as quality time?  

Heard a sublime "Not A Second Time" on the grocery store muzak 
tonight.  Sounded inspired by the Robert Palmer version.  

THEE: Subject: Who am I to Argue.  

I read with interest your treatise on notation.  Being an 
amateur,it took a few years to actually come to believe that the 
editor was considering my ability to play the music as 
transcribed.  I usually believe them lately, and in a very few 
cases, change the fingerings to suit my many bad habits of 

I live in Nova Scotia, Canada, where there are very few 
classical guitarist of any skill level.  I appreciate the time 
you have put into this web site,and would like to continue to 
follow any upcoming columns.  Thank you for taking the time to 
devote to classical guitar notation.  

THEE: Subject: Wunderlust 

Cool, we have an a/b comparison in store--"The Craig Torso Show" 
and the "Wunderlust" advert! 

I also want to conduct the oldest experiment in the world, the 
dog whistle in "ADitL" [a day in the life] on Hself the Wonder 

Doesn't David Bromberg come across as unlikeable?  I hope 
I implied that it was funny in that blues thing but just gross in 
"Kansas City." 

The Renaissance Festival sure does sound like quality 
time.  Tell me, oh master, was there anyone dressed in "Star 
trek" costume?  I heard that Trekkies like to go to these 
festivals and pretend they're trapped in the Renaissance.  

I'm just now listening to "The Beach Boys' Christmas Album."  Oh, 
don't ask why.  

Yesterday, McDonald's ended its latest promotion.  Did 
you get any memorabilia?  It was called "Get Back With Big Mac" 
and had a 1960s theme.  Among the prizes were McDonald's 
delightful food items at '60s prices.  I actually won small fries 
for 18 cents.  If you buy me fries, I'll give you the coupon, 
which says "Get Back with Big Mac." 

THEE: Subject: Postal Service 

I have something to add to your list.  My Mother (blind and at 
age 88 receives delivery to her door by the Postal Carriers.  
Problem is that after finally getting them to walk to the door to 
deliver her mail (after a report from her doctor that she was 
blind and could not walk to her mail box along side a busy road)  
the carrier zumes by if she has no mail and refuses to even look 
her direction to see if she has any mail to be picked up.  She 
clearly displays that she has mail by hanging it outside the box 
with a close pin...What is the law on this and how do I get her 
to slow down and look to pick up her mail?  Thanks 

THEE: Petite Overture 

The Petite Overture was published in an edition entitled "Duets 
and Trios" by William Foden, New York: Wm. J. Smith, 1929.  Along 
with the Trio is a Baroque suite for two guitars by Foden which a 
friend tells me is excellent. Aside from a group of hymns 
arranged by Foden for guitar which were published in 1947, the 
Duets and Trios edition represents the last work  Foden published 
for guitar. (He stopped performing in 1928 and I believe he 
published some editions for Tenor banjo and Hawaiin guitar in the 

Glad to see that you'll be performing this work. As far as I 
know, you're probably the first to bring  this to the public in  
this half of the century.  Tell you the truth,  I'm not sure if 
this work has ever been performed.  

By the way, I'll be in your area Nov. 5-8th. I'll be making my 
debut on classic banjo (no this is not an oxymoron) at the 
Classical mandolinists International Convention. I'll be a part 
of a banjo, mandolin and guitar trio recreating the Big Trio that 
Foden, Pettine and Bacon were a part of back in 1911-12.  I'll 
also be giving a lecture on the original Big Trio which consisted 
of William Foden-guitar, Giuseppe Pettine-mandolin and Fred 
Bacon-banjo.  The convention is to be held at a hotel somewhere 
over on the VA side of DC. Don't have the details at hand, but if 
you think you might like to attend, let me know and I'll send  
the details later.  

I have those other works you mentioned by Foden. The Pizzicato, 
is recorded on my "American Pioneers of the Classic Guitar" CD.  

Doug Back 

ME: Foden, mandolin convention 

Thanks a million for going to the trouble send all that 
information on the Petite Overture.  We appreciate it greatly.  
And now you've got me wanting to track down the Baroque suite for 
2 guitars.  

I surely hope to get to hear you at the mandolin convention.  
Yes, I knew of the convention because I play regularly with a 
mandolin partner.  I can get the particulars from him on the 
scheduling of your performance and your lecture.  Sounds like 

Thanks again.  

ME: Subject: no clever subject line today 

Nope, saw no 23rd century costumes at the Renaissance Festival.  
Then again, I'm the most unobservant person I know.  

How about we just go halv-sies on the 18 cents, send the coupon 
to coupon heaven, and have a french fry nosh-up?  

Did you get the latest Beatlefan?  No wonder Belmo is going out 
of business.  Mighty tough competition...  

My friend Hself is giving a concert at the Frederick Douglass 
Home next Saturday at 5:00.  Our guitar trio will be helping out.  
In fact, the concert is billed as "Hself and friends".  
Note that it does not explicitly state *musical* friends.  You 
all are warmly invited.  It's free (for bipeds).  I'll be at 
maximum nervousness no matter who shows up.  

ME: Subject: mail carriers 

Thanks for stopping by my website.  It sounds like your mom's 
mail carrier is somewhat inconsiderate.  Unfortunately, according 
to the USPS Postal Guide, "in residential areas with door 
delivery, letter carriers, for efficiency, are not required to 
check the mailboxes for outgoing mail if there is no mail to be 

In my neighborhood, I know that the mail-person has often - but 
not always - picked up my outgoing mail when I didn't have any to 
be delivered.  

I hope another call to your post office will get special 

THEE: Re:  Foden, mandolin convention 

We'll be playing on the Friday evening program and I will be 
giving a lecture on the Big Trio on Fri afternoon.  I don't have 
a copy of the Baroque Suite (for some reason I never obtained 
one) Anyway, it could probably be found in the LOC or you could 
write to the Missouri Historical Society at this address: The 
Foden Duet and Trio Folio is located in box 15 of the Foden-
Hoskins Collection.  

The Missouri Historical Society Box 11940 St. Louis, MO 63112 

Hope to see you at the Convention.  

THEE: Subject: I know a place 

Where's the Frederick Douglass House?!?  Not only would 
we be happy to hear you rock out, but we want to see the house!  
Please give more details!  (Actually, i think we have something 
we have to go to that evening, but we may be able to do it all.) 

Just listened to Pet Clark's Greatest Hits LP.  How's your Clark 
clection?  One song, "I Know a Place," has a sufficient Beatle 
reference in it to merit inclusion on my latest tape.  

Talking of which, we watched John and Yoko on "David 
Frost" last night.  It aired July 10, 1969.  Tell me, when was 
the "Cavett" appearance?  Any idea?  I ask because they talked 
about "baggism" on both shows, which says to me that they were 
fond of it for a fairly long time.  

Also, during the "Frost" appearance, they ran an ad. for 
the "John Lennon Anthology."  It's indeed due on Nov. 3.  The ad. 
consisted of an outtake of "Give Peace a Chance."  I was intrigued.  

THEE: Subject: Wine in Water 

I like this problem very much.  I'm sure you know about this 
following solution but here is how I solve it: 

Let X = the volumn of the Bucket
Let Y = the volumn of the cup

At the begining, the wine bucket contains : X(wine)
                 the water bucket contains : X(water)

After the first transfer, the wine bucket now has (X-Y)(wine)
                          the water bucket now has X(water) + Y(wine)

Let Z be the amount of water tranfered to the wine bucket in the second
move, then the content of the cup in the second transfer is:

Z(water) + (Y-Z)(wine)

The Wine bucket now has:

(X-Y)(wine) + Z(water) + (Y-Z)(wine)

or: X(wine) + Z(water) - Z(wine)

The water bucket now has:

X(water) + Y(wine) -[z(water) + (Y-Z)(wine)]

or: X(water) + Z(wine) - Z(water)

The ratio of water/wine in the wine bucket becomes:

water/wine = Z/(X-Z)

and the ratio of wine/water in the water bucket becomes:

wine/water = Z/(X-Z)

The two ratio are the same.


D Mai

THEE: Subject: mail carriers 

Donald, Thanks so much for answering my question about pick-up 
from mail carriers.  I have come to the conclusion that male mail 
carriers are much more considerate than female when it comes to 
that extra mile.  I am sorry to say since I am a woman in the 
work place.  People like her make us look bad.  I have 
experienced this more than I would like to admit. I will continue 
reading your web site.  

Thanks again 

THEE: Subject: Question 

I understand your questioning of the Big Bang Theory,  But do you 
question as strongly the presence of a God.  For to the best of 
my knowledge no one has proved his/hers/its existence.  And if 
you can prove God exists, where did he come from?  


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