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Conversations with me, No. 21
Email highlights, ca. Sep 1999 - Oct 1999

Dedicated to the proposition that every thought that's ever been thunk may be of interest to some crazy fool . . .

ME: I'm a bit at loose ends computer- wise.  It's 3 weeks before 
the plug is pulled on the Cleveland Freenet.  It's taking forever 
to get a Detroit Freenet account.  Don't know which direction I 
want to go with email.  Haven't tried the Juno program yet.  
(Afraid of my machine blowing up.)  Still getting hung up after 
editing files on my computer while connected to Cleveland.  It's 
a huge pain, but is it worth trouble-shooting if Cleveland is 
being shut down?  Wouldn't know where to start, anyway, since 
it's the same communication package that worked fine on my 286.  
Should I go back to the 286 if I can get that working reliably? has selected me for a free computer and internet 
access, but looks like you already have to have state of the art 
equipment to accept it.  Would I want it anyway?  Sister and 
brother-in-law bought a new computer which I saw on Sunday.  Just 
makes me want to pull my eyes out and yank my ears off.  

Some funny things lately: A tractor trailer overturned on 450 in 
my neighborhood.  Saturday morning there was a car on fire on the 
street behind my house.  Going up to Baltimore Sunday another 
tractor trailer had overturned right near my exit on the beltway, 
blocking all the lanes on the other side.  The rain on that trip 
was bizarre.  For a while it was raining so hard I could barely 
see through the windshield - all the while the sun was shining 

Made a couple of trips to LC last week.  The 2nd was because they 
had gotten some things I had requested from the copyright 
holdings at Landover.  

Noticed that Ebay will let a person run 7 of the same auctions 
simultaneously.  Guess I should do that to try and get my 
10 brownie points for a dutch auction.  

No, Hself wasn't physically hurt in the robbery.  Thanks for the 
concern.  I'm still trying to get her to take the steps needed to 
get the bank to reimburse her.  

Thought you might be interested in a lecture on Lincoln at the 
archives on Tuesday Sep 21, noon and 7 pm.  It's by the authors 
of a book called "Don't Shoot That Boy! Lincoln And Military 
Justice" which is based on 600 documents in Lincoln's own hand.  

In one of the first little collections of guitar music that I 
owned was a small extract from "Hansel And Gretel" by Englebert 

The calendar hanging by my computer says Johann Pachelbel was 
baptized in 1635, not 1653.  

Did you ever search on "wonder puli"?  Apparently there's one on 
some album cover.  

Mom lent me one of her Tammy Faye tapes.  She gushed over Tammy 
Faye's singing style.  

In the book I'm reading now about the Guarneri string quartet, 
there is a passage about an open rehearsal they gave at the 
University of Maryland at which Hself and I were present.  

Does the name Barry White mean anything to you?  

ME: Subject: tablature on the computer 

Thanks for all the info on where to get the lute tablature, and 
what to do with the TAB files.  I'm sure I'll use it in the 
future.  For the time being, I still use prehistoric equipment (a 
286), but I could follow the steps you described.  Am I correct 
in thinking that to print PostScript files, you need a special 
PostScript printer?  

It's kind of funny, the idea of what's complicated.  One of the 
reasons I put up all that ascii tablature on the web was because 
I figured that, while it's not the best-looking tablature, it's 
pretty darn good-looking - and *anybody* can get it off the web 
and print it out correctly.  But I've come to wonder just how 
many people would be able to do that.  Now I suspect that word 
processors and printers are so advanced that hardly anybody 

Thanks again for your work in enhancing and spreading the Mudarra 

THEE: I started reading Barb Fennick's "Collecting the Beatles" 
(1982).  Times does not allow me to give you a thorough review.  
Let me just start by saying it will be a negative review.  

ME: Subject: newsletter 

I'm afraid not much has changed on my front.  I fully expect any 
involvement by me in the newsletter to spark some huge blow-up.  
Things are about the same as when we talked on the phone - 
something *major* has to happen before I can get back to the 
newsletter.  Unfortunately, I don't really know what that 
something might be.  So, until further notice, no articles by me 
and none of the music I found.  

In any case, about Galop of the Goblins, yeah, I had that one 
earmarked for Halloween.  It might be more appropriate for a 
Nov/Dec issue coming out at the end of October (just like the 
Christmas piece in the Jan issue.) So, if things change in the 
next 2 months, it could be used then.  Still, it doesn't seem too 

Sorry about this mess.  

ME: Subject: guitar, what else?  

About the Holland duos, I can see that most people would agree 
that it would be nice to "mix the parts".  For me, that's not 
necessary at all.  For one thing, it's nice to have an easier 
part so players at different levels can still make good music.  
For another, the 2 players can always switch parts in different 
pieces.  But most of all, I don't view this style of duet in the 
same way I do a "regular" guitar duet.  It's more like a richer, 
thicker, beefed up solo.  Take away guitar 2 and you have 
essentially the same thing, but so skinny and thin - which has 
the further side effect of exposing our monumental struggling.  
Maybe concert guitarists should hire a helper to sit behind the 
curtain and go boom-chuck-chuck-chuck...  

I found an interesting set of pieces at LC a few days ago.  
Actually, I discovered them among the copyright deposits stored 
off-site and had them sent over.  Do you remember the separate 
cover page for Holland's Sonnambula duo arrangement?  That one 
was published by Oliver Ditson.  It made reference to versions 
for mandolin/guitar and violin/guitar.  I've been curious about 
that since I have a violin partner.  Bone mentioned that Holland 
made operatic arrangements for violin and guitar and I was 
wondering if this could be it, and how it compared to the guitar 
duo versions.  It didn't seem like just stripping the melody off 
of the guitar 1 part and playing it with the guitar 2 part would 
be enough.  Also, we know that Holland was also a flutist, but I 
haven't heard of him playing violin.  It turns out these mandolin 
parts were "arranged by" Septimus Winner, but it would be more 
accurate to say "rearranged" since they are essentially the same 
as Holland's arrangements.  They use the same music have the same 
number of measures, etc.  But some are transposed, and Winner has 
added some mandolin and/or violin touches.  (I presume the violin 
arrangements would be near identical to the mandolin.)  Where 
there is transposition, these mandolin parts can't be played with 
Holland's guitar 2 parts, and unfortunately they did not come 
with Winner's reworked guitar accompaniments.  I sure hope to 
stumble on them somewhere in the LC collection some day.  

ME: Subject: before the web became commercial 

If you want a taste of what's on the web besides buy and sell, 
here are some interesting stories I found for a friend.  Go to, enter "angel stories" (without the quotes) and hit 
"I'm feeling lucky."  And if you want more angel info you can 
surf around a web ring.  At google, enter "angel ring".  

THEE: Re: tablature on the computer 

You don't need a PostScript printer, but you need GhostView (or 
GSView),which lets you view a PS file and print it on a PC 
printer.  Wayne Cripp's site has links to GhostView and 
information on installation.  Since you are running an older PC, 
you probably are accustomed to configuring things as needed and 
hunting down correct pathnames, etc.  Folks hooked on Windows 9x 
may have trouble because they are used to Bill Gates doing it all 
for them.  

Happy plucking! 

THEE: Subject: Big Bang, big bull.  

I enjoyed your 2 essays (tired light).  

We have many similarities.  I have a physics degree from Columbia 
(Phd 1966).  I never worked in physics, but ended up as a 
computer programmer in engineering. I retired a couple of years 
ago and tried to catch up on what was happening in physics, 
especially cosmology, and was horrified at the dominance of the 
big bang "theory??".  

I was happy to see Eric Lerners book (1992) "the big bang never 
happened", and since found 2 more books like that. (The cult of 
the Big Bang, by William Mitchell, also a retired engineer,  and 
another similar book.  But these guys all took a 300 page book to 
make their point.  My project is to condense it to a 3 page paper 
and try to get it into "Physics Today", the monthly non-
specialized magazine that all members of A.I.P. get.  

I'll send you a draft when I get it together.  

PS.  My other hobby is music.  I play jazz and baroque music on 
saxes, clarinets, flutes and recorders.  

THEE: Re: wondrous shape of 8 

Yeah, the Holland guitar duos are nice as is. It's interesting 
that only parts are published.  I'm definitely one to like duos 
notated in score. It makes it easier to switch parts, and you're 
less likely to get lost. Seeing parts in two different keys (when 
someone's playing with a capo) might bother some people, but not 
me! Anyway, it seems that the *entire* 19th cent. guitar world 
disagreed with me. :-) 

By the way, would you happen to know where to find "Packington's 
Pound". I think that the one I'm looking for is by Cutting. It's 
the one you've most certainly seen in several guitar editions. I 
have a version from the Mynshall Lute Book and it isn't it. It's 
pretty cool but not the one I'm looking for.  

Also, do you have a PD edition of Tarrega's "Lagrima". I've seen 
over a dozen modern editions, but I'm looking for the first, (or 
second :-).  

I guess it doesn't hurt to ask what other guitar related 
facsimiles you might have. Do you have the Folger MS?  

THEE: Subject: 3'rd computer in 1 year 

Can you believe how we go thru computers? Seems like only 
yesterday we didn't have one,now we're on #3. Got us a nice new 
IBM Aptiva. Picked it up this week end @Best Buy (How you like 
that  little time saving thing I did with the @ ?) Hself got 
us all set up on the net. Hself & I are going to take lessons on 
working it. (I bet by looking @ this you think I already know all 
there is to know) Well my typing finger is getting sore , so I'll 
see you soon.  

PSS  We were just serfin the web to see if there were any sites 
on how to play Roofball. Well I find this guy named Donald claims 
he invented it . I no I should have got a patent on that the day 
I came up with that fantastic game.  

ME: Subject: about the guitar & piano music...  

Your guitar and piano music is on its way.  This copy job 
involved some "adventures", shall we say, but I think in the end 
they all look great.  Don't hesitate to let me know if you find 
any substandard copies.  

In case it's not obvious, the layout of the pages and the 
insertion of some blank pages here and there is to facilitate 1-
to-2-sided copying, if desired.  You might want to think about 
whether you want to do that for yourself as a first step.  The 
logic is, you probably want to keep your masters pristine, and if 
you're going to copy them, going to double-sided will halve the 
binding effort, and the size of your booklets.  I would suggest 
doing a small batch of pieces at a time, since 1 extra or missing 
page would mess everything up from that point on.  This shouldn't 
happen, of course, but mistakes happen.  

Just to hammer the point to death, the apparently upside-down 
pages in the "oblong" format are that way for double-sided 
copying.  Once you straighten them out, you're in for a little 
brain teaser trying to set them up for double-sided copying 

My facsimile collection is no great shakes.  I have a few baroque 
guitar facsimiles, and a facsimile of Mudarra's Tres Libros.  
About the only thing not readily available is a big chunk of the 
Gallot guitar book copied from microfilm.  Off the top of my 
head, I'm not familiar with the Folger ms.  Afraid I can't help 
with Packington's Pound.  All the versions in my collection must 
be attributed to anonymous, because I couldn't find any by 

I haven't seen things like Tarrega first editions at LC, although 
that doesn't mean none are there.  One time I was asked by 
Chanterelle editions to find some Aguado manuscripts at LC, and 
for the longest time I could find no such thing, looking in all 
the obvious places and asking as many librarians as possible for 
help.  I did find them, eventually.  

I've been wondering what somebody would find looking for late-
18th and early-19th C. guitar music in foreign libraries.  Tons 
of stuff, like I find here, or just a smattering?  

One nice aspect of guitar duo parts is half the page turns of a 
score.  Also, half the copy costs, since you have to copy the 
score twice.  

ME: Subject: adventures in live music 

Thanks for the good, old-fashioned telephone call today - easy to 
cover a lot of ground that way.  I didn't mention I was going to 
see Barry White at the MCI center tonight.  Figured I'd wait 
until after the fact.  Violinist friend Hself is backing him on 
his east coast tour, plus Hself really wanted to go.  I figure 
those were enough reasons.  Enjoyed his part of the show.  Had a 
bit of trouble with Earth Wind And Fire.  

Reading a great book that's been on my list for a long time - 
"Zipper".  I heard the author lecture on the subject at the 
archives a few years ago.  It was possibly the most fascinating 
and entertaining lecture I'd ever heard.  Always meant to buy the 
book, but checked it out of the library the other day.  The man 
who invented the zipper had previously invented a pneumatically 
propelled streetcar which had a mile-long prototype built in 
D.C., heading up 16th street or thereabouts.  

The LC new books cart also had a 4-volume "Columbia Master Book 
Discography".  I read the beginning, which was a history of 
Columbia records.  There's a lot more interesting detail, even, 
than was in "The Fabulous Phonograph".  Is it generally known 
that Columbia started here in D.C.?  So we have that in addition 
to the inventor of the gramophone.  

Found words to a song called "The Brick" in a new book at LC a 
week or so ago.  "A brick can start a riot...  used for a 
pillow...  build a cellar full of noise... [etc. etc.]" 

Who's Cracker?  

I believe I have never heard My Ding-a-ling.  

THEE: Re: about the guitar & piano music...  

Great! I'm not too sure how quickly I'm going to get to all of 
this, but I will. Thanks for the organizational tips.  

The Folger ms. is better known as "The Dowland Lutebook" in the 
Folger Library. I should have said that in the first place. There 
is, as one might expect, some great Dowland in it. Anyway, I'm 
trying to get my hands on a copy.  

We're going to see The Magic Flute on Sunday. I've got to find 
some people to play the L'hoyer. I'm sure that all of your notes 
will come in handy. Thanks again for all of your enthusiasm. 
Please let me know when you get another batch together. 

THEE: Re: GEEtar 

Just got your package. I can tell I'm in for a lot of fun. You 
sure did a lot of work on this batch. As I get into it, I'm sure 
to appreciate it more and more.  

By the way, that ms. that I wrote you about ("The Dowland Lute 
Book") is in the Folger Shakespeare Library, across the street 
form the LOC. I'm trying to get a microfilm.  

Thanks again Donald, you da man.

THEE: Subject: Rockin' 

You saw Barry White?  Did you feel all romantical?  

A book about zippers sounds fine, so does a four-volume history 
of Columbia Records.  

I'm currently reading Mamie Van Doren's extremely sleazy 
autobiography, "Playing the Field."  The top three blonde 
bombshells in the '50s were Marilyn Monroe, Jayne Mansfield, and 
Mamie.  Mamie was a rather distant third, but she is still 

I'm trying to list things on eBay more dilligently now than 
previously.  I just put the "Cocktail" soundtrack up.  

You've never heard "My Ding-a-Ling"?  Do you offer a prayer of 
thanks every day?  

Cracker was a band whose lead singer used to be in Camper Van 
Beethoven.  Cracker had one semi-hit several years back whose 
title escapes me, but which goes like this:  "What the world 
needs now, is another folk singer, like I need a hole in my 
head."  Hself in particular hated that song.  

I'm off now to watch "Mystery Science Theatre 3000."  Even though 
the "last" episode aired about a month ago, the one they showed 
last night was purported to be "lost" and newly discovered.  

ME: Subject: monty burns and the russians 

Barry White was cool.  Dunno anything about romance.  Sound 
quality would have gotten a B from Belmo (but we know how lenient 
he is.) 

While mowing the lawn today - probably for the first time in 
months - a memory came to mind.  I got this mental image of Barry 
White on a Simpson's episode.  Later, I consulted my walking 
talking Simpsons database and Hself gave me some highlights of 
the snake whacking episode.  

Anyhow, I'm always intrigued by this phenomenon of "delayed 
memory".  Why shouldn't it have come to me yesterday when I was 
actually seeing his image, real and depicted?  The most curious 
case for me was one time, about a week after I had read an 
O'Henry short story, it started coming back to me that I had 
heard it before.  Why not while I was reading the darn thing???  

Got a call from Ebay tonight.  They wanted some feedback on the 
magazine they sent.  I told her I was going to be forthright.  I 
remember as if twere yesterday.  It came in the mail.  I thought, 
"Hey, that's nice of them.  Might be some good info in there.  I 
will go through page by page."  I lasted about 5 minutes before 
it went into the trash can.  Whew, it was unbearable.  I forgot 
to tell the Ebay girl my current cliche, "It made me want to pull 
my eyeballs out."  I also forgot to tell her that I'm currently 
reading the history of the zipper.  It's great.  It's in black 
and white.  The thoughts are presented sequentially.  

Maybe I'm easily impressed, but I figure any one of the factual 
paragraphs in the book would have taken me a lifetime to 
research.  (The analytical, philosophical and contextual 
paragraphs I could *never* have written.) 

Yes, I remember that cracker song.  It always went through my 
head changed to "another pop tune".  Man, I haven't digested the 
first 10 million.  

You know I trust you to keep your thumb on the pulse of the 
common man.  Would people generally say that they believe Wallace 
was a changed man over the course of his life, bigotry-wise?  

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THEE: Subject: This is Barry! 

Barry White will be remembered for his appearance in a cartoon, 
but not "The Simpsons."  He's now a regular on the infamous 
"South Park."  He's known to be the king of suave.  That's why I 
asked if he put you in the mood.  I remember that for a while, 
Jay Leno played a soundbite on "The Tonight Show" of White 
cooing, "I know, baby" whenever he wanted to be cool.  

As for George Wallace, it was certainly claimed in his later 
years that he was a changed man.  I've even heard his apologists 
say his heart wasn't in segregation even back in the early '60s 
and that he was just going through the motions.  I vaguely recall 
that he appointed lots of blacks to high state positions in his 
last years as governor.  

And remember, his drawing southern Democrats away from Humphrey 
in 1968 probably gave the election to Nixon.  

THEE: ** For Your Eyes Only ** ** High Priority ** 


Keep up the good work, I think what you endeavour to do is great. 
I started studying the classical guitar about a year ago and one 
of the greatest hurdles I face since I live in Malaysia is the 
scarcity of clasical guitar transcription, even if available its 
most often than not quite costly.  

I strongly subscribe to your views and admire your initiative, 
guitar music or classical music should be made available to the 
public in general and online.  

ME: Subject: mail call for Hself 

I got your email.  Don't worry about roofball, you can tell the 
world what a wobble is.  And you might think you're kidding, but 
sending email is about all there is to the internet.  If you want 
to get started on surfing the web, try "running" and "toilet" in 
a few search engines.  You should get plumbing tips, jokes, 
fiction, life stories, philosophy, favorite quotes, u-name-it.  

What are you doing with your "old" computer?  There are some 
funny things still happening on the one I transferred to a few 
weeks ago.  

Mom says you all had fun on Sunday.  I paid my first visit to the 
MCI Center in D.C.  Hself was backing Barry White on the east 
coast part of his tour.  

Did you all survive the hurricane?  I lost power here for what 
turned out to be 9 hours, so I headed back early to where I was 
looking after the dogs.  (It was her last chemo treatment.)  
Didn't know if there'd be any power there, since it's only 4 
miles away, but that neighborhood was just beyond the outage.  
Still, I had to turn back on one flooded road, and ease around 2 
fallen trees on the other route.  

In case you all have finished reading all of my web pages, I just 
added 2 more book reports today.  

ME: Subject: rmn too liberal for ya?  

The power outage gave rise to a flip-flop.  I was telling Hself 
about the Simpsons episode I saw yesterday.  It was the one where 
Homer takes his dysfunctional family to the counselor he saw 
advertised on tv.  It was one that Hself the human Simpsons 
archive hardly remembered seeing.  We went through the whole 
thing, having some good laughs.  Then I started wondering why he 
hadn't watched it yesterday, which he always does.  That stumped 
him for a moment.  The power outage!  It took away Kevin's tv and 
chased me to a house that had one.  And that's the incredible 
story of how I came to tell Hself a Simpsons episode.  

Forgot to ask, did a good Ebay citizen such as yourself get a 
copy of their magazine?  Did you read it?  

What's so hard to believe about Wallace being a changed man?  
After all, everybody else alive 50 years ago is, too.  In the 
Spike Lee film about the Birmingham church bombing, they make fun 
of Wallace explaining that his best friend is a black man - "been 
all over the world with him."  Just because the old man mumbles 
almost incomprehensibly, and repeats himself, and you're not 
supposed to say it like that isn't evidence that it's not true.  

Thanks for the verbals in your web page.  

If something gets no push and has no expectations, can it "flop"?  

THEE: Subject: eBay End of Auction - Item # 160424937 (Beatles 
Significa - Q&A game.  It's gear!) 

Dear iz710 and mimini1, 

Congratulations - this auction successfully ended.  

Item Title: Beatles Significa - Q&A game.  It's gear! (Item 

        Final price:            $4.00 
        Auction ended at:       09/18/99 20:44:16 PDT 
        Total number of bids:   1 
        Seller User ID:         iz710 
        Seller E-mail: 
        High-bidder User ID:            mimini1 
        High-bidder E-mail:    

Here's what to do next:  . . . 

ME: Subject: elliot mintz would say stiffed 

Went to the PG library book sale today.  Picked up 20 LPs, one 
double CD and 4 National Geographics for $7.56, including tax.  
Bought the Beach Boys Songbook by the Hollyridge Strings, and a 
record by the Hi-Los, who used to beat the Beatles in the Jazz 
Poll.  After getting it home, wouldn't be surprised if my 
Rigoletto cd is unplayable.  Looks like somebody cleaned it with 
sandpaper. Still has the libretto booklet, though.  

"Flop" in previous message referred to SLY. I think.  

THEE: Subject: search enhancement: give plurals and singulars, both 

Dear eBay, 

Any chance you could smarten up your search program a little, so 
that it will automatically find plurals and singulars?  

For example, searching for "chipmunk doll" would find both "doll" 
and "dolls".  

Was a bit miffed a few days ago failing to find my own auctions 
searching on "beatles game".  Eventually realized I had given 
"Beatle Significa Q&A Game" in the title.  

Thanks for considering this.  

THEE: I think I'll stand by my use of the word "flop." 

Today's rock information is particularly suspect, even though I 
did some hasty edits.  Here are the unedited versions: 

35 years ago:  The Beatles perform a charity show in Brooklyn, 
New York to finish their U.S. tour this day with a charity show. 
Later that night they appear on on the Ed Sullivan Show. (1964) 

33 years ago:  The Beatles' George Harrison goes to India for his 
first visit with spiritual guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (1966).  

So, you see, here we have a) terrible editing, b) a September 
1964 "Sullivan" appearance, and c) a 1966 meeting with the 
Mahesh.  Both b) and c) may very well have happened.  I'm just 
not aware of them.  

"Yeah, but what is truth?...If you follow."--Lionel Hutz, 
Attorney at Law.  

I believe I mentioned last week that Mamie Van Doren's 
autobiography was incredible.  At the time I meant that just for 
all the sleaze she had about Hollywood in the '50s.  Since then, 
the book only got better with the first first-person account I've 
read of the Beatles with Jayne Mansfield at the Whiskey a-Go-Go!  
Mamie claims that George threw a drink at a reporter and hit her 
instead.  "A drunk Beatle is still just a drunk," she concludes!  
What a book! 

My memory of "The Simpsons" with Dr. Marvin Monroe was that it 
was one of the earliest episodes but a great one...too.  

Didna get an eBay mag.  

Doing anything this weekend?  Howsabout a fly-up to Joe's Record 
Paradise on Saturday or Sunday?  Believe it or not, I'll let you 
go inside while I only go to the box store next door.  

PS.  We lost power for 16 hours last Thursday night but I saw no 
standing water or even too many downed trees.  

THEE: Subject: Link to your Folias-page of guerau 

I just discovered your tablature about Folias by Guerau.  Since I 
try to list all derivations and interpretations of la Folia at 
the Homepage of La Folia, a musical cathedral (1672-1999) I hope 
you permit me to make a link to your page from the composer 

  Best wishes, 
    Paul Gabler -- 
    La Folia, a musical cathedral (1672-1999) 

ME: Subject: that calls for a drink...  

Sounds like you had a nice weekend.  Chilly beaches are what life 
is all about.  

The weekend is a possibility for Joe's.  What's the boxes for?  
Your ebay business, I guess?  

I forgot to mention I saw the Washington ballet at the Kennedy 
Center Saturday night.  Most of it was pretty neat.  

Wow, 16 hours without electricity?  That must come close to the 
record for people I know personally.  

Yeah, I couldn't quite put my finger on why, but the family 
therapist episode seemed like it must have been a very early one.  
Marge drunk?  Lisa jumping in the fountain?  The main thing was 
the absence of Flanders in obvious spots.  Did he come along 
later in the series?  

Lewisohn makes clear: 

  Sep 20 1964.  The Ed Sullivan Show repeats the Beatles' third 
  appearance on the programmmmme.  The group performs... a charity 
  performance at the Paramount Theatrrrre, New York City.  

My geography is no great shakes, but I never thought of Brooklyn 
reading that.  

And then, 

  Sep 14 1966.  George and Pattie fly to India...  

  Sep 19 1966.  George and Pattie's alias of Mr and Mrs Sam Wells 
  is blown...  They said they have come to India to study yoga and 
  the sitar...  

This had left my memory banks, even though it was highlighted in 

I'll have to show you the graphic record of George baptizing the 
photographer.  Two of the best Beatle photos there ever was...  

Song title was Right Place Wrong Time.  Doubt I've ever heard it.  

Did we discuss Roy Kinnear's death at the time?  The conversation 
certainly doesn't seem 11 years old.  Maybe you've brought it up 
since then.  

THEE: Subject: Guerau's Folia 

By all means, link to my Guerau page.  I'd be honored.  And you 
may do anything you want with the tablature.  It should be 
100% faithful to Guerau's original - just translated into a 
modern tablature.  

Thanks for the address of your la Folia page - I will be sure to 
visit.  A friend and myself were recently discussing what makes 
la Folia "la Folia".  I have a few guitar versions in my 
collection.  I will send you information on them, if you don't 
already have it.  

THEE: Subject: I bid $100! 

Sorry, chief, I'm STILL sticking with my description of the Swan 
release of "SLY" as a flop.  They put it out, it didn't sell, it 
went out of print.  Flop! 

When does the bidding start on your Hollyridge Strings Beach Boys 

I'm proud of us for not getting too caught up in the "Yellow 
Submarine" hype.  It's interesting that the supposedly unreleased 
Beatle song that we heard about several months ago as coming out 
as a single now appears to be "HB"!  [Hey Bulldog]  Speaking of 
"HB," VH1 was kind enough to show the "HB" part of the movie in a 
half hour special on the rerelease that they've been showing 
lately.  I suppose we need to buy the new soundtrack.  

THEE: Re: that calls for a drink...  

Yup, you guessed right about the boxes.  I need LP boxes in a big 
hurry, as the sales keep pouring in.  (I'm still able to outpace 
my income with my bids, of course.) 

I knew that Harry [george harrison] went to India in 1966 but I 
thought the only guru he met was Ravi Shankar.  

The charity concert made me remember the scandal about "Remember 
(Walking in the Sand)."  That may have been the night they played 
with the Shangra-la's.  

I'm thinking of bringing a Lewisohn book or two with me to work 
for problems just like this but, really, my goal should be to 
spend less of my work day on [pop history]!

THEE: Subject: New letter 

Hi Donald,We lucked out with the hurricane.Never lost power and 
little or no water in house.Plenty of nearby neighbors weren't so 
lucky. Man I would have liked to seen that Barry White 
concert.I'll bet Hself loved playing at that one.He can 
sing.Did you get good seats?We'll probably move the old computer 
on.I'll tell you,that babys got a great screen.  Not to mention a 
brand new top of the line CD rom  I paid 60 bucks for.If you're 
interested you can have it all for that.

THEE: Subject: Roofball 

We seem to have much in common. I have been playing roofball all 
my life and also decided to let the world know what a great game 
it is. Our rules are surprisingly similar to your rules. The main 
difference is that we use an old tennis ball for a ball. What 
size is the 99 cent job with swirly colors?  Please visit my 
roofball site at  

I suggest we provide links to each others pages. Do you have any 
details about the version of roofball played at St. Paul's School 
in New Hamphire?  

Bob Saeger

THEE: Subject: Casio Watch 

You most likely lost the springs that ground the sound when you 
changed the battery.  They are tiny and hard to see if they fall 
out.  Please contact our Parts Distributor to purchase more 1 800 
633 0633.  Casio Tech Support 

ME: Subject: 2 big brains 

According to American Heritage, 

  swastika  1. an ancient cosmic or religious symbol formed by 
  a Greek cross with the ends of the arms bent at right angles...  

It's from the Sanskrit svastikah, a sign of good luck, so it must 
have been a positive thing once.  

I see I wrote this in my 1st email to you: 

> By the way, your musical ear is a million times better than 
mine.  I need you to figure out a simple 1- or 2-chord cadence I 
hear in a Magic Flute aria.  

You asked about this some time later and I had forgotten about 
it.  I can show you what it's all about some time.  

I found a reference to money in Steinhardt's [guarnieri quartet] 
book.  For their 2nd season, 1965-66, their fees were "to put it 
delicately, modest."  The examples he gave ranged from $500 to 

See if you have an old receiver lying around somewhere.  I'm 
definitely interested in it.  

I revisited the homepage of la Folias.  I did this at peak time, 
and the acquisition of the 300 kbyte page got bogged down right 
near the end, so it took almost 6 seconds.  (Still, I can be 
reading the first 90% while waiting for it to finish up.)  By the 
way take another look at what he has to say about the discovery 
of la Folias in Beethoven's 5th.  It's amazing.  Guess when this 
discovery was made.  

Gabler lists a Folias for solo guitar by Carulli.  See what he 
has to say about Ponce's variations.  See the interesting 
discussion under Caspar Sanz.  Also de Visee.  

Or have you thrown out your computer yet?  It doesn't look like 
the web is the place for you.  

Sorry again about going ballistic yesterday.  Still, I implore 
you to stop wasting so much energy on resisting what we're doing.  
It would be 1000 times more relaxing to just sit back and go with 
the flow.  

ME: Subject: our song 

I've visited your site and enjoyed it immensely!  Great job! I 
saw it on a friend's modern computer with sound and graphics, and 
have been looking it over on my good ol' text-only dinosaur at 

I haven't read over everything, so these may be a dumb questions 
that I could eventually answer for myself.  But, in the meantime: 

Are you trying to gather *all* known publications of all the 
different La Folias?  If so, I noticed a few missing ones (or 
didn't see them.) 

I suspect that many guitarists became familiar with Sor's set of 
variations in "World's Favorite Selected Masterpieces For The 
Classic Guitar"; compiled, edited and fingered by Frantz Casseus; 
Ashley Publications Inc.; copyright 1970; page 108.  

Of course, it can be found in "Fernando Sor; Complete Works For 
Guitar"; editor, Brian Jeffery; Shattinger International Music 
Corp.; copyright 1977; volume 1; page 134.  I think there was a 
later, revised edition of the complete works.  

Francois de Fossa's Fantasy on Les Folies d'Espagne was printed 
in Soundboard; volume VIII, number 4; November 1981; revised and 
edited by Matanya Ophee; copyright 1981 by the Guitar Foundation 
of America; page 336.  

I'd be happy to work up faithful translations into ascii 
tablature of Sanz's versions if you'd like to add them to your 
site, or would like to link to them at my site.  Just let me 
know.  The ascii tab, while looking rather drab compared to the 
original, at least has the advantage of being readable by all 
modern guitarists (even the ones who claim they can't read tab!) 

I didn't see a mention of Montesardo, the earliest Baroque 
guitarist to give us an "early" folia, 1606.  

Are you making an effort to list dissertations that include 
Folias?  For example, I get all my Corbetta music from Richard 
Pinnell's dissertation.  

ME: Subject: roofball 

Got a kick out of a message from another roofball player.  
Forwarded it to my brother who has some wild idea he helped 
formulate the rules.  

Yeah, it's been occurring to me now and then if I made clear what 
size ball I was talking about.  I mean those lightweight balls 
about 9 or 10 inches in diameter, sort of like volleyball size, 
but I always thought volleyballs were too heavy, even for 
volleyball.  Same with those big red balls they use on elementary 
school playgrounds.  Still, whatever ball works for people is A-
ok.  Thanks for asking; I'll be sure to clarify this on my page.  
And I'd be happy to provide a link.  Nice url! 

No, I don't know about the roofball at St. Paul's school.  Is it 

ME: Subject: carl lindstro"m ges. m. b. h.  

Visited Hself yesterday.  As always, had many out-of-body 
experiences with the jukebox at McDonald's.  I even know 
how to turn the volume up. 
Got stung by a yellow jacket today.  Hoping I got more 
of them than they got me.  My hand is still swollen. 

Sorry, friend or no, the price is $200.  German pressing...  

I was wondering if Hey Bulldog tied in with that never-before-
heard Beatle song.  Sheeshhh.  By the way, there's lots of 
discussion on about a glitch near the end of HB 
on the new album.  Beatle fans are on the warpath about a half-
second glitch.  On the other hand, a few are wondering if it was 
on the original vinyl.  I'm wondering if they took my advice and 
pulled the vocals way up (which they should do on Old Brown Shoe, 

Why you have to rub in "flopped", man?  You know I almost punched 
out Mintz for saying "stiffed" 43 times in one episode.  

Got a nice email from the commissioner at .  

No joke.  

Here's another high recommendation, the "Homepage of La Folia": 

He contacted me because he wanted to link to my Folias by 
Francisco Guerau.  His site is top-notch, and should be fun for 
people who weren't even aware of what La Folias is.  

Lost the first battle in getting Sailor to change their 
direction.  They are offering full-blown internet access now.  I 
think they should put that effort into providing a "whole" 
internet experience for people who are happy with text-only.  

Did Ned Flanders make a big entry, or did they work him in little 
by little, or was he there from the beginning?  

p.s.  what calls for a drink?  

p.p.s.  oh.  it just occurred to me.  by the way, i'm not sure gh 
was a drunk beatle at the time.  

ME: Subject: guitar tanblature 

Hope you find some tab you like at my site.  There's Mudarra, 
Guerau, Campion, Mozart and... Etude in E Minor, No. 2 - The 

p.s. sorry about the goofed up subject line.  

THEE: Subject: Re: guitar tanblature 

Thanks Donald, I put it in my bookmarks.  

THEE: Re: our song 

Thanks for your kind words about the site.  

>  Are you trying to gather *all* known publications of all 
>  the different La Folias?  If so, I noticed a few missing 
>  ones (or didn't see them.) 

Yes I'm afraid so. That's why I always speak of 'an effort to 
list ..' knowing that the task is quite impossible, but with a 
lot of help we must get somewhere.  

>  I suspect that many guitarists became familiar with 
>  Sor's set of variations in "World's Favorite Selected 
>  Masterpieces For The Classic Guitar"; compiled, edited and 
>  fingered by Frantz Casseus; Ashley Publications Inc.; 
>  copyright 1970; page 108.  

Right I will add it. This will help (do you know how many pages 
it takes for all variations?) 

>  Of course, it can be found in "Fernando Sor; Complete Works 
>  For Guitar"; editor, Brian Jeffery; Shattinger International 
>  Music Corp.; copyright 1977; volume 1; page 134.  I think 
>  there was a later, revised edition of the complete works.  

Yep, the number of pages?  

>  Francois de Fossa's Fantasy on Les Folies d'Espagne was printed 
>  in Soundboard; volume VIII, number 4; November 1981; revised and 
>  edited by Matanya Ophee; copyright 1981 by the Guitar Foundation 
>  of America; page 336.  

Yes the Ophee I got (and finally I got his permission to publish 
the first 16 bars of the theme in sheet music.  I will mention 
the Soundboard edition.  

>  I'd be happy to work up faithful translations into ascii tablature 
>  of Sanz's versions if you'd like to add them to your site, or would 
>  like to link to them at my site.  Just let me know.  

Yes I would love to make another link at the Sanz-item. Sanz in 
particular, was one of the main Folia-composers which is still 
incredibly popular up to the present day.  

>  I didn't see a mention of Montesardo, the earliest Baroque 
>  guitarist to give us an "early" folia, 1606.  

Yes, the 'early' Folia I consider somewhat as a side-product, but 
I will incorporate his name (do you know his birth and death 

>  Are you making an effort to list dissertations that include 
>  Folias?  For example, I get all my Corbetta music from 
>  Richard Pinnell's dissertation.  

Well I'm not sure yet. That would end up in a long list of not 
very relevant material. I like to focus the list of literature to 
articles and books with the Folia as an important element, unless 
I quote somewhere a phrase at a particular composer about the 

 Thanks for the contributions, 
   Paul Gabler 
    La Folia, a musical cathedral (1672-1999) 

THEE: Subject: [Fwd: That's a nice hat] 

What what calls for a drink?  I'm lost on that one.  

I'm still blissfully unaware of the new "Yellow Sub." I haven't 
heard a thing.  I think I'm ready to, though.  

I'm reading yet another wonderful book.  It's been a great year 
for reading, for me.  This one is "Notes From a Small Island" by 
Bill Bryson (1996).  In it, he writes about his travels through 
England.  Every page is hilarious!  For some reason, however, he 
steadfastly refuses to use the "B" word in his chapter on 
Liddypool, though he says that you shouldn't take the ferry 
across the Mersey unless you want to have the song stuck in your 
head for 11 days, since they play it so much on the journey.  
It's funny how many Liverplaces he mentions that I recognize, 
however vaguely.  Names like Port Sunshine, the Liver Building, 
the Wirral, and the Adelphi Hotel all ring bells.  Anyway, it's a 
fab book.  

I don't recall the first Ned Flanders episode but I thank he 
appeared full-blown.  I would say the earliest episode I remember 
is the Leftorium one.  

Did you know that in a fit of tidyness (or insanity) I threw away 
all my "Simpsons" videotapes?  

Viva El Santo! 

THEE: Subject: Roofball 

My brothers also have the same warped ideas about formulating the 
rules.  I don't know if roofball is still being played at St. 
Paul School. Go to 

and read up to message 5816 by clicking on next message. And you 
will know what I know about St.  Paul's roofball.  

I know the ball you mean. Do you guys usually hit the ball as a 
volley? Is it hard to get the ball back on the roof after it has 
hit the ground? I can't remember how bouncy that ball is.  

ME: Subject: mspap, mostly 

Thanks for the nice talk the other day.  

Below are those MSPAP comments I had sent to Hself.  One day 
while I was doing volunteer work in the library I had the chance 
to listen in while she administered a MSPAP sample task to a 
class.  The task related to preparing for a camping trip.  

Feel free to send these comments on up the line - all the way to 
the Secretary of Education, even.  

My "book reports" page is at: 

27 of the books are from James McHenry's library.  We were 
talking about the education I got in Baltimore County.  Here's a 
page that touches on that. 

It has it all - math! teachers! standardized tests! sour grapes!  
If it's too much to wade through, just take a look at the note at 
the end of the page.  

Donald (only good for few 
more days) 

Here are the MSPAP comments.  

1. The students had trouble with 1/3 of 90.  It's clear they need 
more drilling in fractions (and probably other basics.)  Do we 
need MSPAP to tell us that?  

2. One student added up a few weights and gave the answer, 15 lb.  
The desired answer was 15.35 lb.  In the real world, nobody would 
calculate it to that degree of precision - or tenths of a pound, 
even.  Why this bugged me is because of a question I saw on a 5th 
grade math achievement test that went the other direction.  The 
answer was 16/30, but that wasn't one of the choices.  The 
desired answer was "about a half" - which is indefensible both 
mathematically and probabilistically (which is what the problem 
was about.)  16/30 is no more "about a half" than 83 is "about 
100" - or 1024 "is about 1000".  (Hey folks, we've got 48 years 
to Y2K.) 

3. It was clear the students were expected to learn some 
probability and statistics theory on the spot for the questions 
about how many distinct meals could be created given so many main 
courses, drinks and desserts.  If that's what the testers think 
is important, the students should have been taught that and 
drilled in it.  (I think 3rd grade is way too early.) 

ME: Subject: sunday night 

Up to Baltimore County today.  Had a nice walk with a side trip 
to the crumbling stone shell of an old Catholic church hidden 
back in the woods.  I think it was blasted by lightning in the 

Lots of computer/internet discussion at dinner, but my father 
never has trouble stealing the show with his "radio flea market" 

"This calls for a drink" was one of your recent email subject 
lines.  As usual just as soon as or after I ask what it means, it 
occurs to me.  In this case, it was George baptizing the 
photographer (and innocent passers-by.) 

Port Sunshine doesn't ring a bell with me.  

Did I mention I'm taking a free mini-course on Spanish.  Not 
expecting to become fluent after six 1.5 hour classes.  

Kind of surprised by the time frame of the first powered 
dirigible flight.  

THEE: Subject: ...and Saturday morning 

We had an extremely mellow weekend.  One of the highlights was my 
adding background colors to my web pages.  

We went to Hselfs' on Saturday night.  They've hidden their TV 
from their son because he was showing big signs of becoming an 
addict.  So, to amuse ourselves, we played Rack-O.  Hself's idea 
and it was a big hit.  

I watched the season premiere of "The Simpsons" last night (back 
with our TV).  Whenever a big star has a large role on "The 
Simpsons," the episode tends to suffer.  The big exception would 
be the Ringo episode in my opinion.  That was the case with last 
night's episode.  

THEE: Fw: More tab: Mudarra 


I'm happy to have posted this announcement to the lute-net 


I am happy to announce that Wayne has just added to the archives 
Alonso Mudarra's "Tres Libros de Musica...".   These originated 
as a free ascii guitar-tab transcription from facsimile by Donald 
Sauter;  Mike Graham and I did further work converting to Wayne's 
TAB and "enhancing" the files somewhat.  The TAB files are 
accompanied by 3 text files with index and performance notes and 
other stuff.  Check them out also.  

This is not a duplication of Dick Hoban's "Tres Libros", which is 
a larger collection of pieces by a number of vihuelists.  This is 
51 pieces by Mudarra only.  

"Tres Libros" is posted in TAB format as A_Mudarra_book at 

Wayne has also posted them in eps and pdf format at 


 [] (  ) 

THEE: RE: sailor direction (fwd) 

Dear Mr. Sauter, 

Thank you for your thoughtful message.  

I am always glad to hear from people who continue to see the pro 
side of text based Internet access.   Many people only want the 
graphical access, while others combine the two to get the best of 
both worlds.  

Regarding you comments on how Lynx can be improved, I hope the 
Lynx developers are able to keep up and accomodate the 
enhancements that are being developed for people who have 
graphical browsers.  At this point I know there are operations 
that just are not possible when the network is accessed via Lynx.  

You made interesting comments about the graphical dial-up (Cruise 
accounts).  We don't see them as much of a threat to the 
commercial ISPs because we offer so few of them and handicap them 
by making them expire quickly.   We came up with the short term 
configuration for two reasons. One, we don't have enough modems 
to provide free graphical access to everyone in the state.  If we 
did, we definitely would represent a competitive threat to the 
ISPs.  Two, short term accounts are analogous to borrowing a book 
from the library.  You don't get to keep it forever, but you get 
to use it for a limited amount of time.  We are seeing that there 
is a real population of Windows 95/98 PC owners who do not want 
to spend $20/month on Internet access.  Their numbers could be 
substantial with time as the early Pentium machines become hand-
me-downs to people who can't afford to buy even a $1000 PC.  So, 
Sailor Cruise Accounts are analogous to typical services that 
libraries provide, like borrowing a book, or using a meeting 
room; services that are real but which do not represent long term 
monopolization of the resource by the user.  

THEE: On Septembert 18, I hiked up Mt. Washington, the Tuckerman 
Trail with a group of my friends. It was a fund raiser for breast 
cancer. I only made it 3/4 way up, just above the  waterfall at 
the base of the headwall. It was beautiful. It was a clear, warm 
day with great visibility. I had carried 8 pounds of warm 
clothing just in case, but never needed it.  I know I could have 
made it to the top, but I stopped when I did because I wanted to 
save some energy for the hike down, which was almost as 
strenuous. Of  course, you know that, as you have been up there. 
Hself went on ahead with the guys. He made it to the top, He 
didnt tell me but his buddies did, that he got terrible cramps 
near the top and almost had to ride down. Ride down, I said. 
Gosh!! No one told me you could ride down! Next time, I will go 
for the top and ride down if I have to. If he had paced himself 
the way I did, he might not have cramped up. He took off like a 
race horse at the gate. Even though there were 850 people hiking 
that day for the cause, I hiked alone because I guess I was the 
slowest.  But I did it.  

What do you think of the hurricanes this season.  I remember 
your comments about the number of storms. Have you researched it 
since? I don't think they should name them after people. They made 
some strides when they changed it from just women's names, but why 
not just code number them, such as Hurricane F6899, or 
whatever other code they want. Because they don't name the 
earthquakes, do they. There have  been so many lately.  I think it 
is hurtful for all the people with the same name. I have a friend  
named Mitch who takes all kinds of crap because of that storm 
Mitch America.. Who can I write to to complain and try to change 

THEE: Fw: FUNNY Church Bulletins, Part 
3...Hard to believe these are for real!!! HAHA 

Just getting ready to go to computer class.Thought I'd try 
somthing new before I get there.I'm forwarding this Email 
recieved from a friend up the street. If I pull this off I might 
just skip 1'st class.  

ME: Subject: getting me fixed up 

Sorry to have caused trouble right off the bat, but I am 
desperate to get things settled here.  Until I do, I can't tell 
the world what my new email address is.  And as the Cleveland 
Freenet is now shut down, I am in a state of limbo.  All my email 
is being bounced back to the senders, causing untold confusion 
and problems.  

Again, I am *desperate*.  I'm pretty sure GDFN will satisfy my 
email needs, but I have to make sure before I disseminate my new 
address.  I don't want to have to go through this again any time 
soon (or ever).  

THEE: Re: my current status 

Donald,  I could not get any info on iz710, so I voided it.  Now 
I put it back on the system and you should not have any further 
problems.  Enjoy!  

THEE: Subject: a little more info 

Here's a little more information you requested, starting with 
some page counts.  

Regarding:  Fernando Sor's set of variations in "World's Favorite 
Selected Masterpieces For The Classic Guitar"; compiled, edited 
and fingered by Frantz Casseus; Ashley Publications Inc.; 
copyright 1970; pages 108-110 (3 pages.) 

Regarding:  Same piece, in facsimile, called "Les Folies 
d'Espagne, variees, et un menuet... Oeuvre 15" in "Fernando Sor; 
Complete Works For Guitar"; editor, Brian Jeffery; Shattinger 
International Music Corp.; copyright 1977; volume 1; pages 134-
136 (3 pages.) 

The minuet doesn't have anything to do with la Folia, and I think 
I've read discussion about or not it whether it was actually 
meant to be played after the variations.  

Again, I feel sure there was a later, revised edition of the 
complete works of Sor, by the same editor but maybe a different 

Regarding: the version by Francois de Fossa printed in 
Soundboard; volume VIII, number 4; November 1981; revised and 
edited by Matanya Ophee; copyright 1981 by the Guitar Foundation 
of America; page 336.  It may be identical or near-identical to 
Edition Orphee's 1990 version (I don't know), but it was 
available many years earlier, and perhaps more widely circulated.  

Regarding Girolamo Montesardo: I don't have birth and death dates 
at hand, or any biographical information.  His guitar book was 
called "Nvova inventione", published in Florence by C. 
Marescotti, 1606.  Again, this has the earliest Baroque guitar 
Folia.  The music was just strummed chords.  

On page 161 of his dissertation on Francesco Corbetta, Richard 
Pinnell discusses Corbetta's Folia of 1671 which was a precursor 
to the "later folia",  the first example of which was by Lully in 
1672.  All of Corbetta's guitar books contain Folias.  

I'll let you know when I've put up Sanz's 2 versions of Folias in 
ascii tablature on my web site.  

Do you know anything about a piece called "La Folle, Romance 
d'Albert Grisar, arrangee en Fantaisie pour la guitarre par Ferd. 
Carulli, Op. 363"?  It doesn't sound anything like la Folia, 
except for one short section in minor which *might* pass as a 
variation on la Folia.  

ME: Made another futile stab at finding a receiver today.  One 
person had just thrown his out because his (still current) City 
Paper ad didn't get any response.  

I'm experimenting with a web-based email service.  So far, it's 
murder.  Don't know if I will find the groove or not.  Looks like 
it will have to do for now.  You might as well start using it.  

My surprise at the time frame of the first powered dirigible 
flight was augmented today by the realization of how closely it 
followed the first train run.  


ME: FWD: today was the 1st day of the rest of my life 

Subject line 2:  you bin through all of F. Scott Fitzgerald's 

Well, 9316 Wyatt Dr. is wired for sound again.  My friend Hself 
found his old, 1983 Technics receiver under a pile of stuff.  
Many, many hardware stories to tell.  Will forget them all by the 
time we talk or meet.  Que sera.  But, managed to overcome and 
spent a day the like of which you have only ever fantasized 
about.  *All day* was listening to music.  WMUC, tapes, CDs, and 
records, records, records.  Interesting discovery: Before The 
Flood is the best album of all time.  

Do you have that old Malcolm McLaren Madame Butterfly song in 
your collection somewhere?  Need to hear it again now that I know 
everything there is to know about opera.  Have 'em all memorized.  

You mentioned Pope John Paul I who had a real name which was the 
answer to a tv quiz show question which won a record 5 million 
dollars prize for a local man who is married to the cousin of my 
frind Hself.  

  Tomorrow will be a full day.  Before your visit, a dead tree 
  will have been taken down in my back yard, and I will have 
  had a talk with the school principal.  No reason all 3 
  shouldn't go well.  

The rope broke and the tree fell in my neighbor's yard.  The 
interview with the proincipal is a long story.  Hself had to 

Diesel French, eh?  Man, the things you learn on the internet.  
But what's j'accuse?  

THEE: Subject: Off to a good start 

I don't have Malcolm McLaren's "Madame Butterfly."  I am 
listening to a Japanese CD of Ann-Margret's "On the Way Up" LP 
(1961).  Would that be of any help?  

One of Emile Zola's most famous pieces of writing was an essay 
denouncing the hypocracy of the French government for unjustly 
jailing Alfred Dreyfus on charges of being a German spy.  The 
essay was called "J'Accuse!" 

I gotta listen to a side of wax before Hself returns.  Today's LP 
is a speech by Golda Meir!  If we'd gotten together this week, we 
would have listened to it together! 

ME: Subject: in a yell-er sum-mer-een 

Things are a disaster for me email-wise.  I'm trying to get set 
up on the Detroit Freenet.  They took about 2 months to process 
my request, and partly due to a goof on my part, they gave me an 
unacceptable ID.  The Cleveland Freenet came down as stated 
Thursday night.  I couldn't get on that day to get my last batch 
of mail, and since then I've been in limbo.  You're the only 
person who has my address.  Everybody else around the 
world is getting their messages to me bounced back.  Some day 
this will all be behind me, and it can't come soon enough.  

My folks had another banner flea market day Saturday.  They amaze 
me.  Mom had a Yellow Submarine and Blue album (missing one 
record).  She gets all excited about these things and I hate to 
break it to her that you can't even give 'em away nowadays.  
Well, she sold the pair for $5.  Amazing.  And $25 worth of comic 
books.  After selling almost $700 worth of stuff, they go to an 
auction for the fun of it, picking up things like punch bowl sets 
for $2 they know they can easily sell for $20.  How many people 
in the stock market can turn a 900% profit in a few days?  

Not much else to report on.  This weekend was a bit of wash-out 
for me.  Was hoping to go to the Renaissance festival today, but 
the plans fell apart.  

A couple of messages ago you remarked on flagging Beatle 
enthusiasm (as if this Yellow Submarine hullabaloo has anything 
to do with the Beatles.)  Don't know if this'll help you, but for 
my money, it is/was what Beatle scholarship is all about.  It's 
from the McCabe and Shoenfeld interview.  The bad words were left 
in for your benefit; I didn't type them.  

Int.: We talked recently to the man who produced Yellow 
Submarine, Al Brodax, and he said categorically that George 
Martin was half of everything the Beatles ever recorded.  

John: Oh, that's bs.  You know what Brodax used to do?  
Brodax got half the Yellow Submarine out of my mouth.  You know 
the idea for the Hoover?  The machine that sucks people up?  All 
those were my ideas.  They used to come to the studio and sort of 
chat...  "Hi, John, old bean.  Got any ideas for the film?  And 
I'd just spout out all this stuff, and they went off and did it, 
you know.  Brodax probably thinks that because Brian made a 
mistake by letting George Martin put all those fills in Yellow 
Submarine, the "Sea of Holes" s-.  And he recorded all this 
terrible s- that went out with our LP, you know.  If you'd 
check it out, it's a whole sort of joke: George Martin is on one 
side of our album.  Oh, we didn't notice that.  

And from Sheff: 

Playboy: Hey Bulldog?  

Lennon: That's me, cuz of the Yellow Submarine people, who were 
gross animals apart from the guy who drew the paintings for the 
movie.  They lifted all the ideas for the movie out of our heads 
and didn't give us any credit. We had nothing to do with that 
movie and sort of resented them...  

On the original interview tapes, he lists Eric Segal writing 
Lennonesque lines, the Glove in the sky, and Horace the pool 
vaccuum (the above-mentioned Hoover.) What were the moronic 
editors thinking?  

ME: By the way, is anyone at Sailor in contact with Stafford Battle, 
who writes a computer column for the local (to the Washington 
area) Gazette newspapers?  He recently wrote a column about 
Sailor (Sep 16 1999.)  Whenever the subject of computer power 
comes up, he insists that everyone *must* have the latest and 
greatest equipment if he hopes to do *anything* with it.  I wish 
there were a voice out there defending the text-only internet 
experience.  Then I could breathe a little easier.  

By the way, in my last note I mentioned it took me 6 seconds to 
access a web page that took my friend 15 minutes.  Well, the next 
time I visited it, it only took 1 second.  Hoo-ray for Sailor.  

THEE: Re: in a yell-er sum-mer-een 

Donald, So, should I use your new e-mail address until told 

The "Yellow Submarine" documentary (or, more realistically, 
infomercial) did credit Johnny with coming up with some ideas.  

ME: Subject: Beatle Significa 

Thanks for the kind words about Beatle Significa.  No, that's 
the only version there is.  It isn't that that's all there is to 
know about the Beatles (ha ha), it's just *really hard* to come 
up with good, fun, usable questions.  (Some people may say there 
aren't any in Beatle Significa.  You could never guess how many 
times the first comment I got was "how hard it is.  I couldn't 
answer a *single* question.")  If I was a glutton for punishment 
and wanted to make a second edition, it would have maybe 10 or 12 
questions in it, and that's stretching it! 

ME: Subject: more YS while we're on a roll 

Things are getting close to being ready on the Detroit Freenet.  
I finally logged into the account I asked for tonight - iz710 
(for sentimental reasons, ahhh) - but there was a message waiting 
for me saying the iz710 account has been removed.  I'll see if 
it's still there tomorrow night.  

For the time being, keep using  In fact, you and 
everybody may use that forever.  When Detroit is set, I will have forward everything to there.  

About the YS "infomercial": if they mentioned that John Lennon 
supplied ideas for the movie, that would make it the most 
scholarly Beatles documentary ever.  That one fact alone is more 
than we got from all of Anthology combined.  

By the way, do you recognize the tie-in with Mel Brooks and "You 
don't look blue-ish"?  

Probably an insulting question, but did you ever get Ringo's 
line, "I'm a born lever puller"?  

THEE: Subject: Whooping it up 

I think I can claim that I got "I'm a born lever puller" in 
"Yellow Submarine."  The line my dad had to explain to me the 
first time we watched it on TV together was when Frankenstein 
rises and Ringo remarks, "I used to date his sister Phyllis." 

ME: Subject: stale mail 

Here's a stale email.  I missed John Lennon's birthday 
completely.  Didn't think of it until this morning (Sunday) 
reading today in pop.  

It looks like things are stabilized here in Detroit.  Everybody 
can start using 

That is a "direct line".  It is actually ok, advantageous, even, 
to use 

which should work (theoretically) in perpetuity, and which is set 
to forward my mail to detroit.  Unfortunately, I'm afraid 
whatever benefits there are to using that address are more than 
offset by the confusion it will cause.  People would be sending 
mail to me at one address, but receiving my mail from another.  

I'm still a little bummed I lost a day's worth of mail on Sep 30.  
I know I lost at least a batch from geocities, and a batch from 
ebay, and message from dejanews.  

Pulled myself out to see a harp concert at the U of Md. last 

I got stung by a yellow jacket on Wednesday.  The pain was worse 
then anything I can ever remember.  My hand is still as big as a 
balloon, although I can close it now.  

The "Flamingo Pie" typo in that article about Paul's new album: 
did they do that?  It doesn't sound like you.  

I never had trouble with Frank's sister Phyllis Stein.  To my 
advantage, I was unaware that there is, in fact, only one correct 
pronunciation of Philistine, as opposed to the eternal Gold-steen 
vs. -stine, for example, toss-up.  I had always just figured the 
humor in "born lever puller" was just the sarcasticness and 
ridiculousness of the statement.  I would have never made the 
lever/liver and pull/pool connections, especially considering the 
word is really -pudlian.  

Still depending on you to explain the tie-in with Mel Brooks and 
"You don't look blue-ish"?  

Have we ever heard George yell "I Need You by George Harrison" 
over the Rossini at the end of Help!?  

What kind of a character was Donald on That Girl?  You can 
stonewall this if he was some sort of loser.  

I called WMUC this morning after they had played something in 
apparent out-of-phase stereo.  Since the song was in mono, that 
means people with their receiver set to mono (to pull in the 
station) would hear nothing (just about).  WMUC always used to 
have this problem with their tape deck, but this was actually a 

THEE: Subject: Always stale mail from here 

I've been twiddling with my web page today and having a little 
fun.  I put up my first javascript.  I still don't know what it 
is.  I just copied the coding from my book, but now my page tells 
you the time.  

Donald was Marlo Thomas's boyfriend in the "That Girl" TV show 
(1966-1971).  I remember just one joke from the show.  On the 
Liberty Island ferry, Marlo spots a man about to throw an apple 
core over the side.  She scolds him and makes him throw it in the 
trash can.  A moment later, a ferry worker comes along and picks 
up the trash can and empties it over the side.  It may be the 
first political joke I ever saw.   Both Hself and her friend 
were shocked to hear of Donald's passing and remarked on it.  

I don't know the Mel Brooks/blue-ish connection.  In the 
documentary, as you'll hear, someone said that Erich Segal's 
draft had our Fabs acting like Yiddish comedians, so what's his 
name from the Scaffold was brought in to Liverpudlian it up a 

This weekend I listened to the Incredible String Band's "The 
Hangman's Beautiful Daughter."  Someone told me once it's an 
excellent album.  Oh, I must disagree!  Now I'm listening to "The 
Bridge--A Tribute to Neil Young."  After 10 years of ownership, I 
remain unimpressed.  

THEE: Re: Beatle Significa 

Just wanted to let you know I received the game and love it. I 
have left you good feedback and hope you do the same for me.  

Thank you very much, 

THEE: Subject: Updates 

Thanks for a fine evening on Monday.  I appreciate all your many 
hospitalities, such as letting me play an awful record, giving me 
dessert, giving me a priceless Hollyridge Strings LP.  Thanks, 
thanks, and thanks again.  

I discovered a good day-in-Beatle-history website yesterday, when 
I went searching for more information on "Sunday night at the 
London Paladium."  The address is  

It looks like it's in Chile! 

I got a new copy of Belmo on Tuesday.  I was surprised.  he 
doesn't say it's his last issue but it has more nakeds in it than 
usual, so something must be up.  

I tried loading the games onto my computer.  Gorilla worked but 
Nibbles did not.  As you told me, it had something to do with the 

ME: Congratulations on the new computer.  Darn shame it'll be 
obsolete before the socks you bought the same day.  Don't sign up 
for any more classes until you talk to me.  

ME: Count me in for the Halloween party.  Expect one of my same 
old, tried and true, costumes.  Thanks again for the help with 
cutting the tree down.  It's a good thing the rope broke - I 
still have horrible visions of you and your truck flying over my 
yard, following the tree into my neighbor's yard.  

ME: For someone who has lived, breathed and eaten computers 
since a tyke, you sure can let a buddy down.  By the way, do you 
know *anybody* who will take that Hunters and Collectors album 
off my hands?  

ME: I got the music safe and sound.  Had forgotten all about 
it, actually.  If your job keeps interfering with the musicale, 
how come you don't just quit?  Went to a harp concert at U of Md. 
last week.  You weren't there.  Thanks a lot for the elevator 
tips below.  I still get cold feet every time I go to implement 

ME: Thanks for the recent letter.  I agree 100% - people names 
for hurricanes is totally inconsiderate.  By the way, my friend 
from Honduras lost a lifetime's worth of correspondence (but no 
relatives) in Mitch.  I'll write more later.  

ME: Beware the deadly virus!  Turn off your computer!  Crawl 
under your bed!  Now! 

ME:  Is your singing still on the web somewhere?  We couldn't get 
it to play on a friend's computer.  

ME:  How's life as a schoolmum?  

ME: How're the grandkids?  How's the teddy bears?  


1)     When there's only one other person in the elevator, tap 
them on the shoulder and then pretend it wasn't you.  

2)     Push the buttons and pretend they give you a shock.  
Smile, and go back for more.  

3)     Ask if you can push the button for other people, but push 
the wrong ones.  

4)     Call the Psychic Hotline from your cell phone and ask if 
they know what floor you're on.  

5)     Hold the doors open and say you're waiting for your 
friend.  After awhile, let the doors close and say, "Hi Greg.  
How's your day been?" 

6)     Drop a pen and wait until someone reaches to help pick it 
up, then scream, "That's mine!" 

7)     Bring a camera and take pictures of everyone in the 

8)     Move your desk in to the elevator and whenever someone 
gets on, ask if they have an appointment.  

9)     Lay down a Twister mat and ask people if they'd like to 

10)    Leave a box in the corner, and when someone gets on ask 
them if they hear something ticking.  

11)    Pretend you are a flight attendant and review emergency 
procedures and exits with the passengers.  

12)     Ask, "Did you feel that?" 

13)     Stand really close to someone, sniffing them 

14)     When the doors close, announce to the others, "It's okay.  
Don't panic, they open up again." 

15)     Swat at flies that don't exist.  

16)     Tell people that you can see their aura.  

17)     Call out, "group hug!", then enforce it.  

18)     Grimace painfully while smacking your forehead and 
muttering, "Shut up, all of you, just shut up!" 

19)     Crack open your briefcase or purse, and while peering 
inside, ask, Got enough air in there?" 

20)     Stand silently and motionless in the corner, facing the 
wall, without getting off.  

21)     Stare at another passenger for a while, then announce in 
horror, "You're one of THEM!" and back away slowly.  

22)    Wear a puppet on your hand and use it to talk to the other 

23)     Listen to the elevator walls with your stethoscope.  

24)     Make explosion noises when anyone presses a button.  

25)     Stare, grinning at another passenger for a while, and 
then announce, "I have new socks on." 

26)     Draw a little square on the floor with chalk and announce 
to the other passengers, "This is my personal space." 

THEE: RE: my new email address, plus laughs 

Hey honey!!!! How are you! I'm doing good. Hope you are too! I 
finally have a home computer. Kids forced me to get it!! My e-
mail addy is: 

When I first opened this I was like who the heck is this. I think 
they have the wrong person! Then I saw it was YOU! 

Life is very busy. Hself just turned 3 Sunday and Hself, 4, is in 
pre-school three mornings a week. I'm still home every Wednesday 
(except this Wed). They are so much fun. Everyone says "how do 
you do it with two so close in age?"  I LOVE IT!!! Best thing I 
ever did! 

ME: Subject: records are our life 

Sorry about the absence.  Things are still such a big mess and so 
confusing, I can barely stand to connect up to the internet.  

Thanks a million for the notes to the tapes, and the tapes 
themselves, of course.  I listened to Best Of S [Something] 
today.  It's surprisingly good.  Big parts of the George Martin 
special will need to be paved over, but almost everything else 
will have to survive uncut, they were that good.  Don't know if 
you were too burned out on the Martin special to notice it, but 
the Celine Dion rendition was top-top-notch.  I could slug Martin 
and her for harping on how "simple, simple, simple..." the 
Beatles' songs were, though.  I especially defy anybody to 
identify the "simple" mold Here There And Everywhere came out of.  
Don't know what you mean when you say Elvis' Something is 
"hysterical".  It's surely the most alive, fun and engaging 
performance I've ever heard.  

By the way, no need to keep separate tapes for Beatle covers from 
now on.  A mixed bag is A-ok with me.  

Bought 3 more records at the library used book store a few days 
ago.  Got the original Victory At Sea.  Had fun with Hself 
comparing it with the rerecorded version.  ("Fun" means we were 
almost slugging each other, but didn't.)  Mine is with the ABC 
orchestra, most others you see are with the RCA orchestra.  Also 
got a highlights of Tosca, and Songs of the Auvergne by Kiri Te 
Kanawa.  Paid the full 4 bits for each record, figuring it was 
going to a good cause.  By the way, do you need Martin Denny 
records?  I can't keep all those Martins, Sandys and Dennys 

Got a good response out of Hself regarding the Just Because/Cara 
Nome (Rigoletto) similarity.  I figured he'd fight me tooth and 
nail, on general principal.  But after playing him my 2 versions 
of Cara Nome, his eyes got real big about 3 seconds into Just 

Started playing my Gilbert & Sullivan boxed set.  On the first 
listen, I thought HMS Pinafore was the worst thing ever; on the 
2nd, the dumbest thing ever; and on the 3rd, up there with the 
greatest things ever.  The next one, Iolanthe was fun right off 
the bat.  There's 4 more to look forward to.  

Had a brainstorm on Tuesday.  I was going to make candy apple 
*chunks* (as opposed to candy apples.)  I can't even begin to 
describe what a debacle that turned out to be.  

I just took a look at Nibbles (what I call SNAKEL.)  I see that I 
didn't activate the modification I put in to make it work on a 
fast machine.  I left my modification commented out, since it 
wasn't tested.  We'll get you fixed up.  

THEE: Subject: This is Martin! 

Martin Denny LPs?  You bet I need 'em, and how! 

Yesterday I listened to a couple of tracks from an LP called 
"Great Torch Songs of the 20s," or something.  It had a Polly 
Bergen song I was keen to hear, "Why Was I Born." The version I 
have of her singing it has her doing it in a medley with another 
song.  Sure enough, when I played the LP yesterday, Polly sang 
wonderfully, until they faded her out abruptly before the other 
song began.  Same version, hasty edit.  I thought they only did 
that to rock songs.  

We liberated the pooch on Tuesday morning.  I sure missed that 
little guy.  Alas, on Tuesday night, to show his disorientation, 
or to scold us for being away, he let forth with a mighty blast 
of pee in the living room.  That spoiled everyone's mood in a 
hurry, I can tell you.  

I had a terrific time in New York, by the way, but I wasn't in a 
spending mood.  I bought one 45, by Thee Headcoatees, and left it 
on Hself's kitchen counter.  

Hself and I visited one of the old west Village record shops that 
used to be so good in the '80s. It's the place I got almost all 
my "Unsurpassed Masters" CDs. It's still there, though its stock 
seems to have shrunk, and many of the CDs are ugly CD-Rs with 
photocopied covers.  It was a tad dispiriting.  

Hself agrees with you about the Beatles covers tape.  She thought 
it was going real well but that I just got lazy with the George 
Martin special.  I'm well into side two of another tape for you.  
I'm glad you still listen.  

THEE: Subject: Attention! 

Clean up your web directory - too many garbage files! 

Louis Gates, Jr. 

Well, I wanted to pass along info about a PBS broadcast this 
Monday night that should be very informative and interesting.  

I'm off to the mountains of Western Maryland this 
weekend...taking mom for her birthday...staying in a wonderful 
chalet with a lake view and partially wooded grounds.  The 
foliage is turning now so this should be a gorgeous weekend to be 
staying upstate in a wooded area.  The area is called Deep Creek 
and it's bee-u-tious there.  

Hope you all have a blessed weekend.  


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