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Conversations with me, No. 22
Email highlights, ca. Nov 1999

Dedicated to the proposition that every thought that's ever been thunk may be of interest to some crazy fool . . .

ME: Subject: coming out of a coma 

I may be close to being back on track, internet-wise, now.  I got 
my friend Hself to "help" me get all my pages back up to geocities.  
That means he did all the work, and it took 2.5 hours.  Whew.  
I've gained a greater appreciation for what geocities *doesn't* 
supply in the way of software tools for its members.  I hope my 
pages are ok.  It's daunting checking them all over.  

Went down to LC on Thursday.  They've got me scared to death they 
may have microfilmed a fragile old guitar book and tossed out the 
original.  There's a shelfmarker in its place now.  I'm leaning 
on them to track it down.  It has a bunch of pieces by Justin 
Holland.  I'm hoping that I'm at least in time to dig it out of 
the trash bin myself.  

A man at the desk behind me had a big, old volume of Talking 
Machine World from 1928 checked out from the recorded sound 
division.  Made me drool.  

In a Boy's Life from 1968 I read the most amazing article called 
Smallest Show On Earth, about flea circuses.  

Recently on WMUC I heard a 1972 Peruvian version of Tomorrow 
(from Wild Life).  Also heard a post-punk version of Ringo I Love 
You.  Not that it was great, just that it *was*.  What a station!  

Played the Pirates of Penzance side of my boxed set today.  Such 
*tunes* those guys could write.  Your Horatio Nelson story 
reminded me (for no good reason) of the captain of the H.M.S. 
Pinafore.  He brags that his ships never sink.  The crew asks in 
astonishment, "What, never?"  He has to recant just a wee: "Well, 
hardly ever!" 

Has enough time elapsed that I can chuckle over your rendition 
of Hself's revenge?  
I doubt we have to panic over the Martin Denny album getting 
bought up.  I'll flip to it and report what it is when I go to 
the library again.  

You did a perfect job with the George Martin special.  Everything 
you recorded needed to be heard at least once, even if it's not 
overly pleasure-giving.  And I'll hear everything at least twice 
before it gets the heave-ho.  Always err on the side of over- 
inclusiveness.  You can't know what I'll like the most, anyhow.  

P.S.  How's this for a url? 

ME: Subject: Thanks again.  (Now get my web traffic back up.) 

Thanks for your help.  I might get back on track yet.  About 
payment, I figure since you *were* doing me a favor, I'll only 
charge you $6 an hour - or whatever minimum wage is now - for the 
2.5 hours it took you.  I do have things to do, you know.  

By the way, did you ever exit from geocities, or are you still in 
there fiddling with my pages?  I see where you changed my word 
"response" to "retort".  Very funny.  

ME: Subject:  new email address 

For what it's worth, I have a new email address.  The Cleveland 
Freenet shut down, causing me great gnashing of teeth.  I don't 
mean to imply that anybody owes me a message - probably the other 
way around, actually.  My new address is .  

That's the preferred address, even though my working account is .  The address is 
*presumably* more permanent.  It forwards all mail to the Detroit 
Freenet address.  If people use the address, I should 
have a lot less trouble if and when the Detroit Freenet shuts 
down on me.  

THEE: One techie note:  you need to update your email 
"preferences" or "options" and set your preferred address as your 
"reply-to" address.  Right now, your email is supplying instead 
your freenet address when people hit "reply" or "save this name", 
sort of defeating the purpose of announcing your pass-thru 

Now for my part, i'm not familiar with, and i can't 
guess why Cleveland would close and Detroit would stay open. (?)  
Is that because the Indians choked in the playoffs?  Actually, i 
don't follow baseball much anymore, but i just happen to know 
about that.  Anyway, i wonder if is like, 
which provides you internet access for free if you let them show 
more ads on your screen while you surf.  

THEE: Subject: Paging Donald 

Don! I just checked out your pages.  They look fine.  I was 
wondering how you indented paragraphs.  It looks like you used 
something called [blockquote].  Those pop-up things are alive and 
well on your pages.  At work, I have a little gadget called P 
Bomber that closes those things automatically.  You have to tell 
it what to look for, however, by listing header text.  That's why 
I think Geocities changed its header from "A message from one of 
our sponsors" to just "One of our sponsors." 

This morning I listened to an ancient LP of English folk songs by 
Kathleen Ferrier.  I'm going to throw it away, alas.  There's 
mold growing on one side.  

The other day, i mentioned Jim Garrison's "lunatic ravings".  
That was a joke on myself since I knew that I'd soon be starting 
Garrison's JFK assassination book, "On the Trail of the 
Assassins."  I started it yesterday and it's a real page-turner! 

Hself is off doing laundry at a brother's house.  The management 
company is having asbestos removed from our basement where the 
laundry machines are and the basement is closed for a week.  
That's a pain.  

There was something else, but I guess there always is.  Oh yes, 
laugh at Hself?  Please!  I was laughing within seconds.  
Fortunately, the episode has not been repeated.  

ME: Subject: world wide wrenown 

You all don't remember an album from a big stack that Hself won 
from a radio station back in the early '70s.  It was by the Sir 
Douglas Quintet and the picture on the cover cracked us all up 
the way it looked like you, at that time, at least.  I couldn't 
find a full-blown version of it on the web, but there's a little 
postage-stamp version.  The album is called "Texas Tornado".  You 
can see it on this page: 

You'll also want to revisit .  

You're getting famous.  

By the way, if you all want computer lessons, I'd be glad to pass 
on what I know.  It would only take 2 or 3 sessions.  

ME: Subject: georgia pop 

Just tonight, I was looking at an old Boys' Life (December 
1964) joke page, and guess what I found?  

Daffynishion: Southpaw - A daddy in Dixie.  (Phil Carpenter, 
Clintwood, Va.) 

Here's the best of the rest.  (Don't worry, I didn't type these 
up just for your benefit.) 

Tom: Hey, Tim, have you heard about the baby that drank 
elephant's milk for one week and gained 10 pounds?  Tim: No!  
Whose baby was it?  Tom: The elephant's.  

Hunter: All of a sudden, I spotted a leopard . . .  Wife 
(interrupting): Don't be silly dear.  They're born that way.  

Class president: Congratulate me.  I won the election.  Pop: 
Honestly?  Class president: Oh, why bring that up?  

Q: Why is the man who does not bet as bad as the man who does?  
A: Because he is no bettor.  [I first heard that one on a 
cylinder recording from the 1890s.] 

A termite walked into a saloon and asked, "Is the bar tender 

Bobby: Dad, what are those holes in the board?  Dad: Those are 
knotholes, son.  Bobby: Well, if they're not holes, what are 

THEE: Subject: Roofball 

Thanks for the link from your web page.  

Your Roofball Association membership number is #105. So far I 
have had few responses to the RBA web site. If you have any ideas 
on how we might better deliver the great game of roofball to the 
web masses let me know.  

THEE: Subject: usted gringo pobre 

donal tu eres un buen amigo para mi con  tigo tengo uno buenos 
momentos en mis dias dificiles creo que los dos gozamos mucho de 
nuestra amistad que nos unira para sie siempre,con el tiempo 
crece mas por el respeto y la honestidad con que nos tratamos. 
Adios y cuidate.  

THEE: Subject: Got  Message 

Got a good laugh checking out those two web sites. After seeing 
that album cover, it did all come back. Hself even got a good 
laugh. She saw the resemblance.

Just finished looking up my old army outfit .164'th MP Co.  Found 
some stuff pretty quick. It was pretty neat to see Miesau Germany 
pop up on screen.  Looked for some familar names, but didn't see 

THEE: Subject: FW: Children's Books 


> Children's Books that didn't make it....  

>     1.  You Are Different and That's Bad 

THEE: Subject: Re: my new email address 

Ran into your folks last night at my Mom's.  They were playing 
Phase 10...I think that's what it's called.  Seemed to be having 
a fine time.  We only drove out there to park the souped up 
Mustang in Mom's backyard...Highlandtown has proved too dangerous 
for it.  

THEE: Got your package of music and news clippings today.  Thank 
you so much.  By the way, I understood that you were jesting and 
was hinting that I should quit my job not the musicale!  I was 
just trying to inform you that I had just that day, I believe, 
decided not to have the musicale...just too much going on!  And 
yes, next June looks hopeful, especially since I'd be able to 
have it at my mom's house (cheaper and more personal).  

I am so glad you sent a copy of the article showing my "harp" 
hands.  I hadn't seen that one.  I will send you copy of the 
picture (color) in the PG Journal.  It's really cool.  It shows 
the artist's drawing as he sketches with me in the background 

I will look over the music you sent, hopefully this weekend.  
And, believe it or not, I still am determined to play 1 to 3 
pieces with you at some point in my lifetime (I can't say 
"century" now).  

ME: Subject: today in balderdash 

Thanks for checking out my recently uploaded web pages.  The pop-
ups shouldn't be there.  They're driving me crazy.  I sure went 
to enough trouble to eliminate them.  

Me, I'd view a moldy record as a challenge.  

Saddened by Bobby Willis' passing.  My impression is that he was 
half of one of the best show business marriages.  

Stanley L. Dritz?  Stanley L. Dritz???  Brought the zipper back 
from England???  No doubt he invented the helicopter and wrote 
the Hokey Pokey, too.  I can assure you this charlatan never even 
made the table of contents of _Zipper_ by a spelling mistake.  If 
you don't have time for the whole book, read the 1-minute 
condensation in 
  [now ]

THEE: Subject: what means no. 1?  what is a city?  

Dear Cecil, 

In a recent column about old 45 rpm records, you toss around 
terms like "Top 10", "No. 1", "No. 2" and "No. 62".  Here's your 
most impossible challenge ever: unravel the voodoo mix of sales, 
airplay, conjecture, opinion and decree that went into 
determining those chart positions (and still does, for all I 

P.S.  Everybody can see what the Beatles are holding on Beatles 
'65.  I know what *all four* Beatles are holding on Beatles VI.  

P.P.S.  Did you ever make use of my brilliantly sarcastic 
contribution to the exploding bird problem - how a cup of rice 
and 2 cups of water make a gallon of cooked rice?  

P.P.P.S.  How can somebody in my dream explain to me what is 
going on in my dream?  

P.P.P.P.S  What is a "city"?  I've managed to get by all my life 
without knowing this - by always giving my post office whenever 
someone asks for "city", for instance - but things have changed.  
When I call my local directory assistance, they say, "What city, 
please?" as they have always done.  But now, they absolutely 
refuse to accept "Washington, D.C.  metropolitan area".  They 
demand that you name a "city".  In fact, they generously allow 
you to guess at 2 "cities".  In Maryland, everybody lives in 
counties (except for Baltimore City, and I never understood how 
that is fundamentally different from a county.  Likewise, I can't 
see how Washington D.C. is fundamentally different from a state.)  
I understand that a miniscule fraction of place names one sees on 
a Maryland map are "incorporated cities", whatever that means, 
but am I really expected to know which of those thousands of dots 
are true "cities", which are just names of crossroads?  The 
other question, of course, is why, with our modern computer 
technology, can't directory assistance tell *me* where the 
requested party lives. 

Perplexed in PG County.  

THEE: Re: today in balderdash 

I'm afraid I can't get together tomorrow.  My in-aws are going to 
have a baby tomorrow (by c-section) and there will be some 
attendant hooplah tomorrow evening.  

I was a little sceptical about that guy popularizing the zipper, 
too.  he would have had to have done it in the '40s, maybe, or 
even the '50s.  Are you going to tell me that all our brave GIs 
wore button flies?  It's a wonder we won the war! 

Bobby Willis's decline and death got a lot of coverage on the BBC 
web site.  Our Cill [cilla black] is still huge over there.  One 
intriguing thing.  Hself and I (but mostly me) watched the 
biography of Brian Epstein that aired recently on the A&E 
channel.  That show went to great pains to argue that Brian died 
accidentally.  The "Post" obit just says Willis took over Cilla's 
management after Brian's suicide.  Is this an issue that should 
be clarrified?  

ME: Subject: you, me, etc.  

Thanks for the nice letter a month ago.  I remember the 
coincidence of just having played Phranc before finding it in my 
mailbox.  It came the day before the Cleveland Freenet shut down, 
which threw my internet life into upheaval for a month.  It's 
still not quite back on track.  

Congratulations on getting so far up Mt. Washington.  I think I 
only ever climbed it once in clear conditions.  

Sorry about not being able to see and enjoy your scanned photo.  
The freenet mail readers are text only.  There's a small chance 
that with my current email arrangements I could forward such a 
message back to my web-based email account and get to look at it 
from there.  Still, for the time being, the best advice is for 
friends to save themselves the trouble of sending images.  

I was disappointed to not get offered an instructional aide 
position at the elementary school where I volunteered last year.  
I had talked with the principal about a full-time tutoring 
position.  I would have been thrilled to pieces with that, and 
I'm sure I could have pulled up the school's test scores, not to 
mention being valuable in other ways.  They had even gotten a 
chunk of money that would have more than covered such a position, 
but they feel they have to sink every dollar they get their hands 
on into computers.  C'mon people, they need some basics, too.  

I've been having fun taking some Spanish lessons at a nearby 
church on Saturdays.  It was supposed to be for 6 weeks, but they 
extended it another month.  I doubt I'll be too conversational 
even after ten 90-minute classes.  But it's nice to have a little 

ME: Subject: small talk (but friendly) 

The "Hey honey!!!!" greeting was the very nicest pick-me-up I've 
had in a long time.  

I know Beatles have taken a seat further back in both of our 
lives, but I still intend to unload most of my Beatle thoughts on 
the web one day.  I just recently put up a new page - the Beatle 
references in Boys' Life magazine.  The page is no great shakes, 
but it was fun going through the magazines again at the Library 
of Congress.  The first version, complete with a batch of few 
typos, is at 
  [now ]

There's even a good joke about first-grade teachers in there 
(from a much more innocent time than your kiddie jokes!) 

ME: Subject: jabber 

Sorry to be so silent so long - you never believe me when I say 
my brain has gone empty.  

I'd be more than happy to listen to your song on cassette, but 
you don't have to make a copy.  Maybe I can hear yours when we 
get together.  That'd be fine, even though being on the web gives 
things such *importance*.  It's like Hself was showing off a 
website of baby pictures of her nephew.  Everybody was amazed, 
and well they should be.  To think that they can look at little 
Hself's pics in the base at the South Pole, even! But I doubt 
there'd be too much enthusiasm if she had pulled out a batch of 
pictures on old-fashioned photo-paper.  

Nice fanzine.  It took me a while to figure out that Buffy is a 
tv show (I think.) 

I think that Phase 10 game is pretty stinky.  But will they 
accept my rule fixes?  Noooooooo...  

ME: I've never made it to Deep Creek lake.  My brother used to go 
as a Boy Scout, but I never graduated from Cub Scouts.  

So, you had never seen your "hands picture" before?  That makes 
scrounging up all those Gazettes even more worthwhile.  The 
picture you describe sounds like a Norman Rockwell.  

THEE: Oh, I can believe you when you say your brain has gone 
empty.  Mine's been that way for awhile.  

> it might take you back to your boyhood.

Uh...I was never a boy ;-) 

Somehow, taking Spanish lessons doesn't sound like fun to me, but 
then I took them in it was work.  In today's society, 
knowing some Spanish seems very wise...esp. for an aspiring 
Presidential candidate.  

Phase 10 and win games.  I just hate losing so 

THEE: Subject: Gallot 

I am a Spanish guitarist, and I too like the baroque guitar 
repertoire. Enclosed you can find my current program. The pieces 
by Logy ( or Losy ) are in a Prague Library. Many thanks for your 
tablatures. I have the Mudarra in a facsimile edition. About 
Gallot, what a fine  composition ! I have read it twice !!! it 
reminds a lot the Passacailles of Gallot's maestro, the great 

This music is in the manuscript  Ms.Mus.Sch. C. 94 preserved in 
the Bodleian Libray (oxford ), isn't it ? What is your opinion of 
the rest of the manuscript ? Are there other identified 
composers, or only H. F. Gallot ??  

I'm thinking of the possibility of ordering this music. Can you 
suggest the right address: Music Room 
Western Manuscripts 

Thanks again for the music, 

THEE: Re: hands 

Glad you enjoyed the for the one that may have caused 
you a brain hemorrhage, don't worry-- it was a play on words 
(homonymns)...heal as opposed to heel...get it...a christian pet! 

Deep Creek is a place you should try to visit one day.  It's 
truly wonderful.  Alas, because I returned on Monday night I 
didn't get to catch the PBS program and forgot to set my VCR 
before I left Saturday (but the respite was worthwhile).  

ME: Subject: it's all harry's fault 

Thanks for the quick lesson on "Reply-To:"  I was never clear on 
what that was all about.  You could see from my message that I 
didn't know how to train people to send mail to me at one address 
when it was coming from another.  It took quite a bit of 
sleuthing and experimentation to fire up Reply-To with my mail 
reader.  It's not something that is visible from a menu or 
prompt.  I'm presuming I got it to work; it seemed to in test 
mailings to myself, anyway.  Let me know if I'm deluding myself. 

You seemed curious about freenets.  Well, I'm kind of vague 
myself.  They're not commercial in any way.  They were set up for 
the public to use, like libraries.  They're text-only and menu-
based.  They were around before the web.  They're not on the web, 
although maybe some of them allow you to get to the web.  I think 
they generally have information and bulletin boards more or less 
specific to their locale.  Cleveland was the first and greatest 
of the freenets.  I used the Cleveland Freenet only for its email 
and usenet access.  When it was threatening to shut down, I tried 
to find a freenet that did those 2 things the same way Cleveland 
did so I wouldn't have to come up to speed on a new way of doing 
things.  In the 2 months it took for Detroit to set up my 
account, I found out I could live quite happily with Dejas' web-
based usenet access, maybe slightly better, even.  This was lucky 
for me, since Detroit's newsreader is read-only - no posting.  I 
also verified that I couldn't possibly live with a web-based 
mail-service.  Some freenets will give you an account instantly, 
but none of those had mail readers that recognize aliases, which 
I can't live without.  Detroit's account came through on the day 
Cleveland shut down.  It took a couple of weeks to iron out 
problems with my account, all the while still not knowing if it 
would do the job for me, email-wise.  The system is the "same as" 
Cleveland's, but set up differently enough that I'm only just 
getting settled now.  

Last year, I had volunteered a day a week at a nearby elementary 
school, doing a variety of things, but mostly helping 1st-graders 
who were behind in reading and math.  I enjoyed it so much I was 
hoping I could get a position as an instructional aide there this 
year.  I talked with the principal about a full-time tutoring 
position, but it didn't materialize.  In fact, they eliminated 
several instructional aide positions this year.  

Over the last year I dug tons of fascinating, old guitar music 
out of the Library of Congress.  That would be fun for me, too, 
being the guitar world's liaison to the Library of Congress.  In 
fact, one person bought a copy of everything I had found up to 
that point - 5000 pages at $.20 per page.  

I just recently put up a new Beatles web page - all the Beatle 
references in Boys' Life magazine.
  [now ]
There is an earth-shattering (haha) Beatle discovery in there.  I 
noticed that, comparing the British and U.S. Help! album covers, 
George has been flipped right-for-left on one of them (don't ask 
me which.) 

Lately I've gotten a little interested in opera, via my guitar 
interest.  There are many, many transcriptions of operatic music 
for guitar in the 19th century.  I found an aria in Rigoletto 
called Caro Nome that sounds *just* like (almost) the Lloyd Price 
song "Just Because" that John sings at the end of his Rock 'N' 
Roll album.  

ME: Subject: grove's dictionary 

I just did a quick search on ebay for the Groves Dictionary of 
Music.  I know you wanted the 5th Edition, but I thought you 
might be interested in a set from 1911 that might go for a steal.  
It's 5 volumes.  

There's also a 5-volume set from 1935, the 3rd edition.  

Go to and search for both "groves music" and 
"grove's music" 

THEE: Subject: Re: georgia pop 

Oh shucks, I thought I thought that up.  

I took Word 97 Intermediate on Wednesday and really had to try 
hard to keep up.  I could, with the instructor leading us thruogh 
the exercises, but alone I'd really need the book. There are many 
helpful features that I bet only a few users take advantage of.  
I try to remember as much of it as I can but my brain is on 
overload by the end of the day.  Six hours are probably more than 
most classes on a single subject would usually last. I'm glad I'm 
doing it because at least some of the information will stick with 
me and the rest will look familiar when I look it up in the text 

ME: Subject: the day of the dead 

Did you get any trick or treaters tonight?  I only got about 12, 
and about 8 of them were in one group.  I put on a cowboy hat and 
black mustache and turned up some weird music real loud.  

THEE: Subject: baseball suggestions 

Hi Don; having played most of my life, I share most of your 
suggestions to make the game better.  But here's a few more that 
always made the game boring.   How about the intentional walk.  
Why not just say to the ump "give him first" instead of 
watching the pitcher throw 4 meaningless pitches.  Or how about 
the 99 foul rule.  Why should a batter get 99 chances to get a 
hit, while the pitcher busts his butt to get 3 strikes.  99 fouls 
and out is rediculous. The batter should get 3 swings at the ball 
and that's it.  Or the batter allowed to rub out the batters box. 
Do you realize how many times these guys arent even in the box 
when they swing.  There's no reason for a batter to take his foot 
and rub out the marks.  He can't do it on the foul lines.  Thanks 
for the interesting site.   

THEE: Subject: Blue Angels 

Does anyone beside me think that the Blue Angel program is 

Ben Sauter Hebbville 

ME: Subject: exotic sounds of 

Hself threw a nice Halloween bash today (Sunday).  I used my 
guitar-playing Mexican bandito costume, figuring a) I only have 2 
costumes to choose from, and b) even though my family has seen 
it, there'd be about 25 others there who haven't.  Some of the 
little kids took turns wearing it, too.  

My food contribution was a brilliant idea the reality of which 
fell far short.  It was not the hit of the party.  It was a 
variation on candy apples where I didn't cook the red stuff all 
the way to a hard-cracking stage, just to a thick syrup.  That 
way you could dunk apple slices and not have to eat a whole 
apple.  Sounds great in theory but it was pretty mundane.  

I'm afraid my turntable is not spinning evenly.  I can't blame 
the varying pitch on a few bum records anymore.  

I've recently discovered it was a big mistake recording on my 
tape deck in the "metal" mode.  I was taping a WMUC Halloween 
special last night and found the sound quality go way up in the 
"normal" mode, which is what I always used to use.  Don't know 
what happened to make me think metal was better.  

Some good songs on the halloween special.  I definitely need the 
complete works of Napolean 14th.  Have you ever stumbled on his 
album or albums?  

It's about time somebody clarified for me the contributions of 
Howe and Singer.  I don't know why I've come to believe that 
Howe's da man.  

Interesting to read of a real Charles 'Awtrey.  

There are very convincing arguments that Brian's death was 
unintentional.  I guess what I'm wondering is whether Brian had 
left a note on his earlier suicide attempt(s).  

You'll never believe what I discovered; not only is Martin Denny 
not a girl, but she doesn't even sing!  Do you need The Enchanted 
Sea?  Maybe I should know this, but I don't remember any Stardust 
or Sentimental Journal by Martin Denny in the Hself tapes. 

ME: Subject: party report 

I got email accounts for mom and pop a few days ago - and  I have them 
both set up to forward everything to me.  You might want to think 
about setting up similar accounts with for you and 
Hself and Hself.  The benefit is that one email address will 
work forever.  If you ever switch internet service providers, or 
somebody gets an email account at work or school, for example, 
all you need to do is redirect where forwards all the 

THEE: Subject: [Fwd: Brother Martin] 

"Enchanted Sea"?  That doesn't sound like one I own! I'm getting 

After I sent out the pop newsletter on Friday, I was reminded of 
Terry Southern's most important accomplishment:  He's on the 
cover of "Sgt. Pepper."  So, I was able to get that info on the 
web, as well as a relatively poor reproduction of his mug from 
the cover.  My quest for a good computer version of the "Sgt. 
Pepper" cover goes on, well into its third year now.  

The pooch seemed to have fun, though I always get sad seeing how 
nervous he is whenever we load a car.  He jumps in as soon as we 
open a door, to tell us we're not going anywhere without him.  

We utterly ignored Halloween, which really isn't the best way to 
do it.  (Actually, we went to a pumpkin-carving party eight days 

The news about your turntable leaves me ashen! 

THEE: I have seen your web site and I very intersted in, 
especially all concerning "the most practical string 
measurements" but I would like more informations of how come the 
formula of the freq in fonction of the tens, the MPL and the 
leng. You say that it is fundamental but could you explain me How 
I can obtain it.  Thank you for your help.  

THEE: Subject: C Kinkel, Charming Waltz 

Hi, hit your kind of amazing list of guitar music in a search on 
"Kinkel," which mostly turned up Kip the teenaged marksman of 
Portland OR.  Do you know anything biographical about one C. 
Kinkel?  I just bought his (or her) Charming Waltz on eBay, 
because it is dedicated to the babes of Shelbyville Female 
College -- that was in my home town of Shelbyville TN, sort of an 
odd dedication by a Yankee during the Civil War.  As you have 
indexed this person as "Ch" (as a guitarist and a composer), you 
know more than I do.  Well, about that, anyway.  

I'm a crusty old folklorist, live in the DC burbs, and know how 
to use the LC -- just thought you might be quicker and easier, if 
you have any interest in CK.  Another source would be the Center 
for Popular Music at MTSU; I see they have an 1858 edition of 
Charming Waltz, so maybe the dedication antedates The War.  
Unless only later editions are so dedicated.  

ME: Subject: it's a wonder we can even feed ourselves 

My internet provider Sailor has had a malfunction this week 
making going online very unpleasant.  I realize now you had 
floated the possibility of getting together tonight (Thursday).  
Sorry about not getting back in touch.  I'm playing guitar with 
piano buddy Hself again, and we've been getting together on 

Did you carve a pumpkin for yourself at the pumpkin carving 

Is "Brother Martin" a quote of historical significance, I guess?  
Is that Martin Denny cover girl pic on your site for real or a 

Was surprised to read that Stephen Crane was born after the civil 

Yes, I enjoyed the Dylan stories very much.  About Hootie's "Only 
Want To Be With You"; it lifted half a verse - and Dylan's 
funniest half-verse: "They say I shot a man named Gray and took 
his wife to Italy.  She inherited a million bucks and when she 
died it came to me.  I can't help it if I'm lucky."  The 
controllers of Northern Songs informed me they can sue for 1 
word.  Now, I'm not a lawyer, but I have no doubt you can get 
sued for less than that.  Remember that they at least tried to 
get sexual harrassment to apply to purely mental activity.  

John Lennon had a harmonica as a little kid.  Stole another one 
in Belgium.  

People who have heard the antecedent say 12-Bar Original was 
composed by Booker T and the M. G.s.  

All that reminds me, I read the Beatlefan interview with Jack 
Douglas some time ago.  I guess I didn't find any of the Mintz 
stories too shocking.  

Played scrabble last Sunday.  Best play was OUTSLEEP.  Also 
caused minor stirs with GUYED and ECRU.  

Turntable has been behaving itself lately.  Probably needs a new 
belt, but I've failed before in a quest to buy one.  

ME: Subject: Gallot 

I'm glad you enjoyed the Gallot Passacaille.  That's what makes a 
website worth it!  Yes, you are correct that it is in Bodleian 
Library, Music School, C 94.  Exactly how you go about getting a 
copy, I don't know. A friend lent me a huge chunk of the Gallot 
book she copied from microfilm.  I've had a lot of fun with those 
pages, but I will say that there are lots of problem spots 
(meaning errors in notes and rhythms) in lots of the pieces, 
though not all of them.  

As far as other composers in the Gallot book, let me quote 
Richard Pinnell's dissertation on Corbetta (page 192).  "The 
scribe (of the Gallot guitar book) made a few attributions to 
composers other than Gallot.  Corbetta received 8 attributions...  
Also mentioned ar the names of Chabotti, Mr. T, Arkangelo, Mr. 
Talbot, Clement, Mr. Manoko and Batiste.  Many anonymous pieces 
are by Corbetta; in fact, at least 85 of his compositions can be 
identified in this manuscript, alone!  There may be many more 
because of an idiosyncracy of the scribe.  Frequently the letter 
"f." appears by the title of a piece; this designation may mean 
Francisco Corbetta..." 

Pinnell's dissertation is called "Francisco Corbetta and the 
Baroque Guitar".  I recommend it highly.  

ME: Subject: what i do is...  

I wanted to thank you for your input to my "What I do is..." 
thread.  All along, I liked your analysis best, that there was an 
implied "I" in there.  It seemed so obvious that my first thought 
was, "Uh oh, I've gone and asked a really dumb question on the 

Now, I'm almost willing to believe that "What I do is to sit" is 
ok, even though nobody would say it in a million years.  

Mostly, though, thanks for getting the ball rolling on the 
thread.  I had fun with it.  

THEE: Subject: Stolen 

I've decided that web pages and e-mail may be the devil 
incarnate!  They're so time-consuming.  I've got to figure out a 
way to do the newsletter faster.  

Are you saying that Hootie used all of this:  "They say I 
shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy.  She inherited 
a million bucks and when she died it came to me.  I can't help it 
if I'm lucky"?  Please confirm and I'll run an abject apology in 
the Nov. 8 issue! 

THEE: Re: my new email address, plus laughs 

Grandkids are doing great and the Teddy Bears are super.  
Including a photo of myself and John Bruno--appraiser for 
Treasures in Your Home for PAX tv, taken when we were recently up 
in Atlantic City, N.J. for the Atlantique Antiques Spectacular--
12 football fields of indoor antique booths--what a hoot!  

What's hilarious was the appraisal that Mr. Bruno gave "Clark the 
Bear"--our recently acquired circa 1910 Ideal Teddy with a 
Roosevelt style (original to the era) safari jacket.  He 
appraised the bear at $60 and moaned when we told him we'd paid 
$160 in Clarksville, Virginia in early September.  What he didn't 
know is that we'd just had the bear appraised by two top Teddy 
experts Evelyn and Mort Wood of Teddy Bear and Friends Magazine--
who had a very valuable Teddy bear exhibit at this show--big time 
early German bears!  They appraised Clark from $600 to $800.  He 
was also appraised by two unknown gentlemen who knew nothing 
about the Wood appraisal--at $600.  

So, it would seem that our dear Mr. Bruno--darling man that he 
is--needs to bone up on his Teddy appraisals.  We'll be seeing 
him again tomorrow in Virginia Beach--(where the show eminates 
from) as he's appearing at a local mall on behalf of the 
television show to do more appraisals.  This time we are bringing 
him two miniature framed painted German portraits from the 
1800's.  Can't wait to hear those appraisals!  Stay tuned--just 
in case they televise it!  

THEE: Re: friendly jabber 

I'm venturing into Teddy bear repair and refurbishment as well as 
recreations of early cloth dolls, and still doing antiques and 
collectibles as well as designing and making new teddys from 
mohair and assorted antiqued fake furs.  Since we are heading to 
a new millennium, I thought the business name very much explained 
what I do--I'm always salvaging the past and researching and 
reselling what I tire of.  I have saved countless unimportant 
30's, 40's and 50's bears from trash bins.  My collection is 
quite wonderful.  One day I'll send photos.  

Someone is retiring locally and Hself is begging for the 
position.  Won't be as diversified as what he does now but the 
salary is the same and we can well live with a little "boring on 
the job" as long as he's not commuting.  Makes me a nervous 
wreck!  I worry about his constant driving back and forth.  There 
are so many nuts on the road today, that I'm living on a prayer.  

P.S.  The McKee Beatles Convention that was held here--any idea 
how that went?  We were oddly in New Jersey while the convention 
was ironically held in Virginia Beach.  I say that because the 
Secaucus Convention is held yearly in New Jersey--and that's 
usually the closest convention to us! and we actually drove to 
New Jersey to attend it once.  It was the first time I met the 
late Joe Pope--March 1989.  

THEE: Re: a test 

I checked out Hself's "Today in POP", and was pretty impressed 
with the variety and quantity of historical references Hself 
digs up.  The sheer number of individual "links" he has for each 
day (elaborating on the particular Pop referenced individual) is 
equally impressive.  

Finally, your gonna love this:  I had a dream last night where, 
in the dream, this girl I know is trying to teach me a verse to a 
rap tune.  Its a fairly elaborate and complicated verse, and in 
the dream I cannot really recall much of what she is teaching me.  
She goes over and over the verse, repeating it perfectly each 
time, and I keep trying to memorize the words and rhythm, but I 
fail miserably.  In the dream (and, for that matter, in my waking 
life as well), I really cannot memorize this song , but Hself (in 
the dream, anyway) has the words DOWN.  This is sort of like what 
we were taking about last Wed. re: characters in a dream knowing 
something before I do.  

I told Hself your thoughts on dreams in this regard, and she 
feels that your mind is merely making up the story as the dream 
goes along.  For instance, in your Florida vacationer dream 
(which I read on your web site - very intertaining site, by the 
way) Hself thinks that when you ask the vacationer why he 
keeps telling everyone he meets that he needs directions to 
Dulles to fly to Florida (yet he continues to drive south in his 
car to Florida), your brain simply thinks up a story line on the 
spot that fits with the previous plot that has played itself out 
in the dream.  Its all done "real time", according to Hself, and 
is improvized on the spot by your mind. Not a complete 
explanation, I know, but I thought I'd throw it out there.  

THEE: Subject: Letter to editor 
TO:, iz710 

To the editor: 

A friend recently signed up to buy a house.  He will have it paid 
for when he is 74, if all goes well.  

The CEO of the company he works for makes enough in 30 days to 
pay for the house.  

What is wrong with this equation?  

Ben Sauter 

ME: Subject: do you remember where you were when you 1st heard...  

About the time-consuming internet, my suspicion is that there's 
no way to speed up your web page and email production to any 
significant degree.  Windows 3000 and super-mice won't do it.  
The next breakthrough will be wires stuck in our brains.  

Yes, all of that was in Hootie's song.  I distinctly remember the 
first time I heard the song - the stretch of road I was on, even.  
You know I hate almost everything on the car radio, but I was 
actually enjoying this sound - and when they did the Dylan quote 
I about jumped for joy.  It never occurred to me that they didn't 
slip him a fiver.  Always frustrated that I could never 
understand the lead-in line, something like "li'l bit o' dylan, 
sitting on a fence".  I know that's not it.  

Up to Baltimore today.  Brother-in-law Hself was a bit sick and 
couldn't make it.  The good news is that that allowed me to win 
both Potomac Blackout card games, and all 3 scrabble games.  3 of 
the 5 wins were by the skin of my teeth on the very last play.  
Only 1 bingo in scrabble: FOUNTAIN.  

Checked Lucia di Lammermoor on cd out of the library on Saturday.  
Listened to most of it before discovering it was a 1954 
recording.  Pretty impressive.  I did notice right away, however, 
where's the stereo? 

ME: Subject: kinkel, our man 

I got a big kick out of your message about Kinkel and his 
Charming Waltz.  I dare say we're the only 2 people on earth 
curious about this guy - and for 2 totally different reasons.  

In my collection of guitar music, I have 5 pieces by Kinkel which 
were arranged by Justin Holland.  I'm fascinated by Holland since 
he was probably the most important American guitarist of his 
generation - call it the 1860-1880 time frame - and he was black.  
If you weren't aware of that, you might want to take another look 
at his presence in my list of guitar music.  It's amazing.  

Holland's guitar arrangement of Charming Waltz doesn't show the 
dedication you describe.  It was copyright in 1867.  Two others 
of the 5 pieces, "Little Beauty" and "Pearls Of Dew" waltz, are 
credited to Ch. Kinkel, so that's where I got that.  

Not knowing anything else about Kinkel, I have always wondered if 
Kinkel and Holland were associated.  It seems that Kinkel was 
also a guitarist, since I have a piece, "Whisperings Of Love 
composed & arranged. For The Guitar.  By C. Kinkel."  (1863) 
(Allow me to presume that C. Kinkel and Ch. Kinkel are one-in-
the-same people!)  So it was published in the same time frame, 
and by the same publisher, J.L. Peters, as Holland's 
arrangements.  Kinkel does not have an entry in Bone's Dictionary 
of Guitarists, which is the first place you would turn to for 
info on obscure guitarists.  

I gather from your letter that the Charming Waltz was originally 
for something else, like piano?  And you refer to an 1858 
edition.  What year is yours?  

Anyhow, it's all very baffling - that a person who was a 
guitarist would write non-guitar compositions that were suited to 
the guitar well enough that they were arranged for guitar - by 
someone else! 

And there's still more confusion...  These pieces arranged by 
Holland (at least 4 of the 5) were published in 1867.  The first 
term of copyright would then expire in 1895.  Well, lo and 
behold, some of these editions were printed from the original 
1867 plates, but with the added claim: "Copyright MDCCCXCV by 
Karl Kinkel."  Is Karl Ch's son?  Did Karl buy back the copyright 
to the guitar arrangements from the original claimant and 
publisher, J.L. Peters?  Or did the rights revert back to the 
Kinkel family at that time?  Did the Holland family have any say, 
or anything to do with this?  

Keep in mind that Justin's son Justin Minor Holland was also a 
guitarist.  I have an arrangement of "Florie's Waltz" by Ch. 
Kinkel "arranged for the guitar by Justin Minor Holland." This is 
also copyrighted 1867 by J.L. Peters - and renewed in MDCCCXCV by 
Karl Kinkel.  It seemed strange to find Holland's son arranging 
at the same time his father was, but I guess Justin Minor could 
have been in his 20's by then, so there's no real difficulty.  

I always made the mental conversion from Ch to Charles in my 
mind, but the funny thing there is that if you suppose Kinkel is 
of German extraction, or possibly even a German immigrant, you 
would expect *his* name to be Karl, and his son's Charles - not 
the other way around.  And about presuming that a good, German-
sounding name like Kinkel really *is* German, note that the 
subtitle to his Angel's Serenade (this one by C. Kinkel) is "La 
Serenade des Anges."  Doesn't sound too German *or* English to 
me, ha ha.  

After writing the above, I looked up an old Soundboard magazine 
on microfilm.  This is the publication of the Guitar Foundation 
of America.  They had printed Holland's arrangement of Kinkel's 
"Angel's Serenade" in a 1975 Soundboard (Vol 3, no. 2).  Peter 
Danner wrote the introductory notes.  He's one of the world's 
best guitar scholars.  The paragraph on Kinkel reads, "Little is 
known of Charles Kinkel who seems to have been a moderately 
successful mid-19th century musical hack who wrote and arranged a 
vast amount of drawing-room piano music with such sentimental 
titles as "Basketful of Jewels Mazurka", "Dashing Spray Polka" 
and the almost unbelievable "Don't Squeeze Me So Schottisch".  
His "Angel's Serenade seems to have been particularly popular.  
The "Universal Handbuch der Musikliteratur" lists more than a 
dozen American and European editions published before the turn of 
the century.  Holland's arrangement, published in 1866, displays 
a typical parlor-song mentality and evokes an age much less 
complex than our own." 

Not much there, huh?  At least Peter gives us Kinkel's full first 
name!  He makes me wonder if I was correct in believing that 
Kinkel really arranged that piece for guitar.  I wonder if 
somebody poking around the Library of Congress could uncover 
something about Kinkel.  

Thanks for prodding me to pull all my thoughts about Kinkel 
together, even if it hasn't answered anything.  And I hope I 
haven't given you cause to lie awake at night wondering what, if 
any, associations there may have been between Charles, Karl, 
Justin and Justin Minor! 

By the way, The Charming Waltz is a fave of mine - it rocks! 

THEE: Subject: asking a favor 
To:, iz710 

If possible, I would like to expand my answer to the last 
question on the NPAT, which I put in the mail yesterday.  I hope 
this isn't too much trouble for you.  It's not a result of total 
lack of care on my part; just that after stewing over whether to 
say something or not, I've changed my mind.  Here's what I want 
to say in answer to the last question: 

*** Presidential Priorites (essay):  

Priorities will be set by the people.  People will have to pay 
for the government programs they want.  Fair enough?  

I strongly believe the number one priority should be an overhaul 
of our system of justice, creating one based on common sense and 
conscience.  (This issue does not appear in the questionnaire.)  
Any movement in that direction, of course, would have to have 
majority approval.  

THEE: Re: kinkel, our man 

>I dare say we're the only 2 people on earth curious about this 
guy - 

Or, with Peter Danner, of your later cited Soundboard article, 2 
out of 3 (which, to coin a phrase, ain't bad) -- 

I sent a later version of my query to Paul Wells at the Center 
for American Music (Murfreesboro TN, on campus of MTSU) -- he's 
not really "curious" about Kinkel, but they do have 39 pieces of 
his music, including this one dedicated to the Shelbyville 
ladies.  He had wondered if it was the Shelbyville in TN (26 
miles from his Center), and I confirmed that, with a bibliography 
(a reference to the college, in a 30 year old edition of the 
Shelbyville TN newspaper).  

>I gather from your letter that the Charming Waltz was originally 
for something else, like piano?  And you refer to an 1858 
edition.  What year is yours?  

I don't know what my copy was arranged for; haven't seen inside 
its cover yet.  All I've seen is the almost but not quite 
complete cover as illustrated on eBay; I'll attach that for your 
edification.  It is said by the seller to be 1864.  Paul says 
their copy says 1858 on the cover, but 1864 on the first page of 
music.  A clerical error has caused this to appear in their 
online catalog as two different imprints.  Anyway, theirs is not 
the Boston imprint I have bought.  

>the added claim: "Copyright MDCCCXCV by Karl Kinkel."  Is Karl 
Ch's son?  

I'd guess he's just "Charles" going by the German form of his 
name, maybe to appeal to customers who had immigrated more 
recently.  Just a guess, though.  

>I wonder if somebody poking around the Library of Congress could 
uncover something about Kinkel.  

God forbid it should be you or me.  One might look in censuses of 
places he might reasonably be thought to have worked -- if one 
found him, one might try local histories etc. of those places.  
Also Diss Abstracts Int'l, Nat'l Union Catalog of Manuscript 
Colls, that sort of thing.  Paul says there is a Charles Kunkel 
in Amerigrove, but they have only 13 pieces by Kunkel, and 39 by 
Kinkel.  I'd want to rule out the possibility that these are 
variants of the same name.  Possibly Kunkel with an umlaut "u." 

I wonder if he was itinerant, either as a music teacher or a 
concert giver.  Might have taught master classes for the young 
ladies, who then sat neath the craggy peaks of Middle Tennessee 
playing guitars to the native flamingos, per the attached cover 

>By the way, The Charming Waltz is a fave of mine - it rocks! 

I can hardly wait.  Well, actually we'll probably play it on 
domra and bayan (my wife and I are into Russian music; play in 
Wash Balalaika Soc orchestra, though we are in no sense Russian 
or Slavic).  But we do have guitars, and play them occasionally.  
Mandolins too.  Which is why I have a copy of the Bone book 
(original edition); didn't even think to look for Kinkel in it... 
but then, I had no reason to think of him as a guitar player or 
arranger, until I hit your web site -- then I just did the Send 
Email trick, didn't turn to my books.  

PS -- I have separately sent you a link to the sheet music search 
page for the Center at MTSU, useful for finding some things the 
LC doesn't have.  

ME: Subject: contains copyrighted material 

> Are you saying that Hootie used all of this:  "They say I shot 
a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy.  She inherited a 
million bucks and when she died it came to me.  I can't help it 
if I'm lucky"?  Please confirm and I'll run an abject apology in 
the Nov. 8 issue.

It's the honest truth.  

Thanks for visiting this evening.  I just remembered another item 
on my list: "I Live In The Place Where The Nuts Hunt The 
Squirrels" by Napolean XIII.  Something for later, I guess.  

THEE: Subject: wine in the water problem 

Enjoyed your wine in the water problem.  One approach is to fix 
the amount of water in each bucket at one cup.  Then transferring 
one cup is the same as emptying the whole bucket.  So if you 
empty one bucket into another and then refill it with the 
mixture, then you obviously have the same mixture in each bucket.  

THEE: Subject: Nuts! 

Thanks for a terrific evening.  Thanks for the LP.  Thanks also 
for the clarification on Hootie.  I hope I did it justice in 
today's issue. 

I'm sorry we didn't get to napolean VIII.  That's not one of my 
fields of expertise, by any means.  

I listened to four more tracks from the WHFS CD this morning.  
They were all pretty weak.  

Hself seemed to enjoy his Fit and Trim this morning.  

THEE: Subject: Harp music...  

Took a little time last evening to do a run-through of the pieces 
you sent me.  They played okay actually...not necessarily 
enchanting, nor pieces that would send your listeners into a 
trance or wave of awe, but could work well as an addition to 
one's repertoire.  The Handel (for violin & cello) is a little 
more plain than I thought it would be but perhaps it's because it 
is a transcription.  The FestMarch seems like it could be fun, 
particularly since it's a duet.  

By the way, you mentioned in your letter about a big, ol' pile of 
cassette tapes with harp music.  I'm interested.  How many do you 
have?  Are the tapes labeled?  Let me know.  If it's a lot, maybe 
I could arrange to pick them up.  

THEE: Subject: Re: beatles game 

Hello Donald, I will get 4 ones off to you today.  Your message 
indicates I would only have to send $3.50, but the extra weight 
of the coins would increase the postage, not to mention tipping 
off the USPS employees that there is money inside.  I like you 
approach to avoid checks and money orders however.  

THEE: Subject: Tricky Questions 

Hi, Don!  Sunday's (Nov. 14) "Ask Marilyn" column in PARADE (in 
that *other* newspaper [washington post]) has your old mixing 
water with wine question - or whatever liquids you used - 
presented using boys and girls in dorms.  

THEE: Subject: Re: another book report 

EXCELLENT report of American Beat; especially liked your diatribe 
on the silliness of how our educational system places soooo much 
emphasis on spelling.  Pretty long and in-depth review; must have 
taken you quite some time to write!  

PS: one possible discussion point for Tuesday evening: assume, 
for the sake of this discussion, that all domesticated animals we 
use as food sources (cows, fowl, pigs, etc...) are treated 
unbelievably cruelly and inhumanely during the raising and 
slaughtering process.  Given that assumption (and there is some 
decent evidence that, indeed, the food industry's treatment of 
these animals is appalling), is it moral that we go on eating 
beef, pork, chicken, etc...?  I'd like to know your thoughts on 
this matter (by the way, I do not believe you are a vegitarian, 
if I recall) 

THEE: Fwd: Friends 


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         You have just been hugged!! 
         That's right, there's no getting out of it this time!! 
         This is the start of a full-scale Hug O' War! 
         So hug everyone you know!!! 
         Hug your friends, your enemies, everyone!! 
         With all the other forwards out there, I thought this 
             would be a good one to start.  
        The hug is my favorite sign of affection.  
        It can mean so much, and many things at the same time.  
        It can be a sign of love, friendship, comfort or anything 
        So here you go.  
        All I can say it will do is brighten someone's day.  
        I mean, we all need a hug once in awhile.   So send this on 
        if you'd like, to anyone who may need a hug, send it 
        back to whoever sent it to you, send it back to me!! 
        Goodness knows, we could all REALLY use a hug sometimes.  
        So send this on and show someone you care!!            

THEE: Subject: personalized plates 

i am trying to come up with some good ideas for a personalized 
plate.  i drive a red 300zx twin turbo.  maybe you can help me 
with this 

ME: Saw a really neat picture book of old gramophones at LC last 
week on the new books cart.  It was all in full color.  It was 
published in Korea, but the English captions mostly made sense.  

They also had a fire alarm while I was there, so the whole 
building evacuated.  

I think I left my disk in the library's computer for about the 
umpteenth time today.  What happens is you stand there forever 
waiting for this or that page to load and long before you give up 
on it, you forget what you're even trying to do.  

In the WGS newsletter was an article that gave me the biggest 
jolt yet about how fast the web - and thus our world - is 
charging on.  The Kennedy Center has started to archive all of 
the Millenium Stage concerts, and you can get them all - sound 
and vid - on the web.  Criminy, the web is only a few years old.  
We should still be stupefied that somebody in Japan can look at a 
list of titles in some guy's record collection in Maryland.  

ME: Subject: libraries and music, some chatter 

I enjoyed your last note.  A member of the Wash. Balalaika Soc. 
Orch.?  That's great.  It's been some years since I've seen 
them.  I'll have to get out again.  

Interesting theory about Ku"nkel vs. Kinkel.  I have a similar 
question, wondering if a C. H. Stickles is maybe the same guitar 
composer as some Stu"ckles with a name-change operation.  

I'm a very easily shaken person, and I was a bit shaken by 
Hself's objection to me making the music available to anyone who 
wants it.  This isn't the first time I've heard this concern, and 
I'm always floored.  It wouldn't make any sense for me to unload 
all my thoughts on you, but here's a few, for therapeutic 

If I were a different sort, all I would have to say is, "Public 
domain is public domain.  Sit down.  Shut up."  There couldn't be 
any response to that.  We've waited our 75 years.  Still, my main 
argument is that I am doing the public, *and* the library, a 
very, very valuable service.  By going to me, the public gets a 
much better product at a tiny fraction of the cost of doing it 
themselves.  We're talking savings of tens, maybe hundreds, of 
thousands of dollars.  For the library, I am saving them untold 
labor, and wear and tear on their collection.  Can you imagine if 
even one out of a thousand of the world's guitarists got the bug 
to root through the LC collection?  Sheesh, if the music division 
gets more than about 6 users at one time, you'd think they're 
gonna have a break down.  They might deny it, but they go to 
great lengths to keep the public at bay.  

This is all completely hypothetical, of course.  Only two 
guitarists have bought copies of my LC music.  If I viewed my 
efforts as business instead of recreation, it would be pretty 
grim, indeed.  Say I should be earning a modest $50,000 per year.  
At 4 years of hard labor and a few hundred dollars in sales I'm 
in the hole to the tune of $199,500.  I don't think Hself needs 
to worry.  

By the way, MTSU has an incredible statement on the pop music 
site: "Copies not available for personal use [!!!] or 
performance." Then what could they possibly be for???  

So, none of that has anything to do with you.  But thanks for 
being a listening board.  

ME: Subject: sanz's folias 

I got your test message today.  It's a bit of a coincidence since 
I just uploaded some web pages today with Sanz's Folias.  I 
haven't had a chance to check them over carefully but everything 
should be in order.  In any case, the url will stay the same.  
  [now ]

That has links to all the Sanz pages, two of which have Folias in 
ascii tablature.  

It also occurred to me that John Duarte wrote another piece based 
on La Folia, for 6 guitars.  I've played it, but I don't have it, 
and I couldn't put my fingers on a review of it I remember 
reading.  I forget if he actually used "La Folia" in the title.  
[summerset follies]  It's a fairly recent piece.  I hope that's 
enough info for you to track down the rest of the information on 
the web.  

ME: Thanks for the M. vos Savant tip.  I used to write to her to 
put the wine/water problem in.  How wrong did she get it?  

Do you know anything about computers?  Does "emacs-type" editor 
mean anything to you?  

THEE: Subject: Grub 

This morning, I listened to several songs on my "Capitol 
Collectors Series" CD of Louis Prima.  I was sorry to note that 
his version of "Sheik of Araby" is a medley with something else 
and the something else gets most of his attention.  Still, I must 
record it for you.  

I'm intrigued about this Kennedy Center putting stuff up on the 
web but my first response is, "Remember how long it took us to 
download that thing from the Library of Congress the last time 
you were over?"  I still distrust sound and video through the 
computer.  Call me old-fashioned, I guess.  

ME: Subject: hooray for the maroon, white and blue 

I suggest giving the Kennedy Center performances a test run.  I 
was telling my guitar friend/computer expert Hself about the 
site.  I also brought up our somewhat frustrating experience with 
the Edison recording.  Hself says the difference is that the 
Kennedy Center performances don't have to be downloaded first; 
your computer plays it as it downloads.  It's called "streaming", 
or "real-streaming" or something.  

I always look at the clearance table when I'm in Office Depot, 
but had never found anything I needed.  The marked down prices 
are no great shakes, either.  But the other day I struck true 
paydirt.  They were selling off plastic binding combs - at 22 
cents a box!!!  I bought 7 boxes - 4 different sizes and 
4 different colors.  I need more binding jobs!  Prepare thyself 
for maroon!!! 

Got a knock on the door tonight from a man who lives not many 
houses away looking for a missing boy (I'm presuming his.)  I 
sure hope that has a happy ending.  I took a walk down to the 
park, hoping, at worst, to find a very lost or slightly injured 
boy.  I didn't see anyone.  

ME: Subject: showers 

About your ufo sighting last night - I heard on the radio that 
we're in the Leonid meteor shower, and that the midwest states 
even saw a big fireball.  

You mentioned your light moved slowly, but keep in mind the 
apparent speed depends on the trajectory of the meteor.  I had a 
friend once who was watching for meteors and he saw one the 
*didn't* move at all (apparently).  It was just a speck of light 
that grew brighter and then faded away.  The explanation is that 
it was aimed directly at him! 

It occurred to me today that I wish I knew your 2-corks trick for 
my family's thanksgiving get-together.  Presuming we don't meet 
up before then, is it something I could learn by email/telephone?  

THEE: Subject: Re: duarte's other folias 

>The minuet doesn't have anything to do with la Folia, and I 
think I've read discussion about or not it whether it was 
actually meant to be played after the variations.  

Yes I agree, musically there is no connection at all. Perhaps I 
should stress this fact once more at the page.  

>Richard Pinnell discusses Corbetta's Folia of 1671 Might be 

I will try to lay my hands on this book. Corbetta is considered a 
key-figure in the transition in all Folia-literature (although I 
can't hear it that well when I listen to the different Cobetta-
folias, I favour Falconieri by far) 

>I'll let you know when I've put up Sanz's 2 versions of Folias 
in ascii tablature on my web site.  

Two? You mean the 'earlier' and 'later' version?  I have read in 
literature about his two versions but the 1674 version is the 
only one that is recorded by numerous guitarists. The second one 
would be great for the page 'Some early Folias'.  

>Do you know anything about a piece called "La Folle, Romance 
d'Albert Grisar, arrangee en Fantaisie pour la guitarre par Ferd. 
Carulli, Op. 363"?  It doesn't sound anything like la Folia, 
except for one short section in minor which *might* pass as a 
variation on la Folia.  

Oeps, no. Except for the Op. 75 I do not know of other Folias of 
Carulli, although I have read (once more) that Carulli was one of 
the few composers who wrote an early and later Folia. However the 
earlier Folia I have never found so far.  But I guess there are 
quite a few Folia-fragments in guitar compositions. Recently Mr. 
Kwasniok hinted me for a fragment in the oeuvre of Giuliani: Opus 
96, nr. 3. He included the music in a bitmap so I made a small 
midi out of it for the page. The Folia-theme itself is actually 
not played, but the admosphere itself is very Folia. I don't know 
where to draw the line exactly.  Once someone attended me on the 
fact that the first three notes of 'God save the Queen/King' are 
exactly the same as the Folia theme. It is rather very arbitrary 
I'm afraid.  Thanks for all the information, 

Paul Gabler 

>With a little help from my guitar buddy, the title of the Duarte 
piece for 6 guitars came to me today.  I'm pretty sure it's 
called "Somerset Follies".  

Yes I have seen this title somewhere in one of the catalogues I 
guess and wondered if it had to do with the Folia-theme (since I 
made a search for 'Follies' as part of the title Follies 
d'Espagne). Now it's the trick to locate the database I have seen 
it in. Thanks for the tip.  

THEE: Subject: Counting the days 

That's an upsetting story about the lost child.  I hope it works 

Ugh, streaming, and Real Player.  These are things I try to avoid 
because I am at least partially a luddite at heart.  However, I'm 
expecting an upgraded version of my Internet software in the mail 
from Erol's any day now and it should have the Real Player built 
in.  If so, we can check it out! 

I love the color maroon!  I just changed some of the heads on my 
web page to that color the other day, so I'll look forward to 
things bound with a maroon thingie.  

Yesterday, I started reading "Helter Skelter," which I originally 
bought more than 10 years ago at a used bookstore (RIP) in 
Woodley Park in order to break a $20 for change for the Metro.  I 
can tell I'm going to become engrossed, accent on the gross part.  
Have you read it?  The first chapter opens with the quote about 
"the beautiful people" from "B,YaRM." [baby you're a rich man]

THEE: Subject: Re: our changing world 

> Thanks for the M. vos Savant tip.  I used to write to her to 
put the wine/water problem in.  How wrong did she get it?  

Same answer that you got! 

> Does "emacs-type" editor mean anything to you?  

Yes, it's a very powerful text editor.  I wouldn't bother trying 
to run it on your PCs.  Or are you just interested in what the 
different keystrokes do?  

THEE: Subject: Re: showers 

Yes indeedy, I believe I can explain the cork trick in writing (I 
assume you have exhausted your efforts trying to figure it out on 
your own - ever find any corks, or are you sticking to felt tip 
caps?).  Lets get our nomenclature straight.  As you nestle the 
cork in each hand (placing the middle of the cork in the webbing 
between the thumb and index finger of each hand), note that one 
can describe each "end" of either cork as being either on the 
"palm side" or on the "top side" of a hand.  Now, as you hold the 
right cork in your right hand, take your right thumb and place 
the pad of that thumb on the "palm side" end of the cork in your 
left hand.  Then, likewise, take your left thumb and place it on 
the "palm side" end of the cork in your right hand.  Now, note 
that one of the fingers in each hand (I use the middle finger of 
each hand) can now be curled around to meet the "top side" end of 
the cork in the opposite hand.  Grasp the ends, and seperate! 

Thanks for the UFO explanation - I heard it on the radio also, 
but didin't realize that we were getting any of the Leonid shower 
in our end of the country.  Also, didn't realize that the 
"apparent" speed of a meteor was trajectory related, but when you 
relay that "meteor just got brighter but didn't move" story, it 
makes perfect sense.  

I'll phone you to make sure you get the cork explanation.  

THEE: Subject: Aguado links 

We corresponded a while ago about Guerau. Thanks for putting the 
link to our Giuliani page on your Aguado page. Any chance of your 
adding one or two other links?  

By the way, may I mention that your phrase "realized by Mantanya 
Ophee" in the Aguado page isn't correct. Ophee was not involved 
with this publication. (Your text reads "The engraving to the 
right of this text shows one of Aguado's invention, the 
'tripodium.' See the translated version of Aguado's method, 
published by Tecla Editions and realized by Mantanya Ophee") 

ME: Subject: rocking thanksgiving 

About Yellow Ledbetter, I didn't mean to inflict it on everybody 
at the gathering (as great as I bet it is.)  I meant we could 
take a cassette player up on the roof or something.  I only 
wanted to save you the trouble of making a tape, which I know 
involves real work.  

Yeah, that business about a friend forging an email from me is 
all worked out.  I was afraid I had really upset him.  I hadn't 
at all.  It was just a joke I misinterpreted.  

This all brings something to mind.  I don't know if everyone has 
the same experience as me, but it's just incredible how botched 
internet communication can be.  This has been driving me almost 
out of my mind for the last 2 years, but now I have a safety 
valve.  I have a guitar friend who visits regularly.  We actually 
do more talking than guitarring, and a major source of 
conversation material is how something I say in an email or on 
the web is interpreted in some unbelievably crazy way (or 
ignored).  Just as one example, among countless, one of the 
world's top guitar scholars wrote me yesterday about one of my 
guitar pages.  He referred to a link on it to his site that I 
don't have, and a reference to another guitar scholar on it that 
just plain isn't there.  What is going on?  I should be paying 
Hself big psychiatric bucks.  

THEE: Subject: millenium stage 

I was bowled over backwards by your article in the newsletter 
about the Kennedy Center website.  I got a chance to watch a bit 
of Duo Con Brio on Hself's computer and another friend's.  This 
is absolutely amazing.  As fast as things have been progressing 
the last few years on the internet, it looks to me like things 
are right now in the process of exploding out of sight.  Disk 
space must be cheaper than air now.  It seems like only yesterday 
I was knocked out by the thousands of pages of music on the 
Library of Congress site.  And it seems like only yesteryear 
working at GE when people would get all bent out of shape if you 
kept a few earlier versions of a tiny text file lying around on 

ME: Subject: i know nut-ting...  

Yes, actually, I could use some emacs keystrokes.  I suppose I 
could research that, but if you have some info at your fingertips 
I would be forever grateful.  

What I really need is for Reply-to: to come right up automatically 
in my mail messages when I send them.  I want not iz710@detroit...   I have to edit that 
every time I send mail.  

ME: Subject: bingos 

After talking to you on the phone, I got the 2-cork trick working 
in about 2 or 3 minutes.  In fact, I was disappointed how fast I 
got it.  It took a few more minutes to get clear in my head what 
I was doing, precisely, and how it worked.  

In spite of having already solved it, I blank-slated my head and 
read your solution as literally as possible.  It worked perfectly 
on the first read-through.  I suspect it would be very hard to 
state more simply and clearly.  It was virtually identical with 
my own discovered solution, except I thought in terms of placing 
the thumbs simultaneously, which is harder to describe, and 
perform, than one after the other.  

I made deluxe, wooden cylinders by cutting 2 pieces from an old 
croquet mallet handle.  Thanks a lot for the trick and solution.  
I'll get some mileage out of it at the Thanksgiving feast.  

Right, isn't that funny about meteor speeds.  We all - including 
me - think of meteors whizzing past at the standard "meteor 
velocity".  In fact, I'm not sure why my friend's experience came 
to mind to explain the sluggish meteor you saw (if that's truly 
the explanation.) 

I reread a few pages of One, Two, Three... Infinity.  I'm looking 
at that different-sized infinities business with a much more 
dubious eye than in 7th grade.  More discussion material.  

Played 4 games of scrabble with my father and brother-in-law 
Sunday.  I came up with FORTIES, EMITTED, EBONIES, RESONATED, and 
SALTIEST.  Had another 80-point play pulled out from under me 
when the official scrabble dictionary didn't recognize STENT, a 
medical term that's common enough to have come up in conversation 
in different groups lately.  It's a tube used to connect guts, I 

P.S.  The play was  SQUAT hitting 3-word score.  

ME: oops

I've never cracked my Helter Skelter book, and I can't imagine it 
ever rising to the top of my priority list.  I'm sure (pretty 
sure) I've mentioned that in the late '60s I had started to 
collect newspaper clippings about the Beatles.  When it started 
becoming fouled with all those Manson articles I got fed up and 
through the whole collection out.  

Boring, but excellent, news about the lost boy.  He was just over 
at a neighbor's house.  I hadn't realized it was a boy who had 
played some kickball with us just a few weeks ago.  I had never 
met him before that.  

Went in to the elementary school twice last week.  Neither time 
was for working with the kids, but both times I stuck around in 
the computer room, floating around trying to help everybody 
clamoring for my help.  I think they missed the boat not hiring 

If you're a "luddite" with respect to internet technology, 
where's that leave the rest of the world's population???  

WMUC was coming out oopsed [out of phase stereo] tonight.  That's 
kind of a pain in the neck, because they were playing some things 
worth stealing parts of, like some Beatleish things from Austria 
and Germany from around 1970.  On the other hand, some of them 
sounded really neat oopsed.  

THEE: Did I tell you I was able to see Eddie Vedder's latest 
concert via a webcast? My machine couldn't handle it, but Hself 
let me borrow her computer for two evenings.  Silly, but I video 
taped the screen with my camcorder.  All the white stuff blips, 
but I was able to rehear two brand new songs!!  The webcast 
looked more like a slide show than anything else.  

I was just thinking this morning how ALL advertisers mention 
websites now.  Hself's radio was on...and...yep...a website.  
Really amazing that so many people are online.  

Glad you got it all straight between you and your friend.  I know 
what you mean about online communication.  Regular communication 
is tricky, but dangling participle (??)  
can change the meaning of it all.  And it's impossible to really 
catch sarcasm.  

People have visited my Bradford Tatum web site, only to decide 
that I am Bradford Tatum and write me fan mail. What can I say...  
reading comprehension...never an easy thing.  

So, if I have offended you in any way in this letter...HA!!  Just 
a disclaimer...that maybe we'll need to add to all of our 

THEE: Re: i know nut-ting...  

> Yeah, actually, I could use some emacs keystrokes.  

See the end of the message for JOVE's keystrokes; JOVE is a 
stripped down version of EMACS.  While you're on the web, take a 
look at 

for a little more explanation of the commands.  I use an editor 
called MicroEMACS that I have programmed to work like the old VAX 
editor, EDT, so the only EMACS commands I know off the top of my 
head are Ctrl-K to kill a line and Ctrl-X/Ctrl-C to exit EMACS.  
(JOVE is also available for DOS, by the way.) 

Your gratefulness is noted and saved for a rainy day.  

> What I realy need is for Reply-to: to come up right 
automatically in my mail messages when I send them.  

Get your own Internet Service Provider (ISP)?  

I saw on the cover of some tabloid in the grocery store that Paul 
McCartney is dating a one-armed or one-legged lady.  Has a proper 
period of mourning passed?  Will Paul stop being a vegetarian?  
Will he start writing some good music instead of relying "on the 
kindess of strangers" like Steve Miller?  

A list of the hot keys for the JOVE editor

Ctrl-A: Beginning of Line
Ctrl-B: Backward Character (ie left arrow)
Ctrl-D: Delete next character (ie delete)
Ctrl-E: End of line
Ctrl-F: Forward Character (ie right arrow)
Ctrl-H: Delete Previous Character (ie backspace)
Ctrl-I: Self Insert
Ctrl-J: Newline and Indent
Ctrl-K: Delete to end of line
Ctrl-L: Redraw display
Ctrl-M: new line (ie return ?)
Ctrl-N: next line (ie down arrow)
Ctrl-O: new line and back up
Ctrl-P: previous line
Ctrl-Q: unpauses
Ctrl-R: search reverse
Ctrl-S: pauses, ctrl-q to undo
Ctrl-T: transpose characters
Ctrl-U: Num, next key.
        Places num occurences of next key,
        num defaults to 4
Ctrl-V: next page
Ctrl-W: kill region
Ctrl-X: see below
Ctrl-Y: yank (last Ctrl-k or Ctrl-w deletion)
Ctrl-Z: execute named command

Commands in Ctrl-X

B: select buffer
D: delete current widow
E: execute kdb macro
K: delete buffer
N: next window
O: previous window
P: previous window
S: save file
T: find tag

To use the following type Ctrl-X then the following

Ctrl-B: list buffers
Ctrl-C: exit jove
Ctrl-E: compile it
Ctrl-F: find file
Ctrl-I: insert file
Ctrl-M: write modified files (return)
Ctrl-N: next error
Crtl-O: delete blank lines
Crtl-P: previous error
Crtl-R: visit file
Crtl-T: transpose lines
Crtl-V: visit file
Crtl-W: write file
Ctrl-X: exchange point and mark

THEE: Subject: G Sanz 

Thanks for posting the tabulature for the sanz stuff, but there 
is one piece i need: "espanoleta" from Rodrigo`s Fantasia Para Un 
Gentilhombre. I have the version from the concierto but I would 
really like to play the original. It is by the way one of the 
most beautiful pieces of music ever made.  

Thanks again :) 

THEE: Subject: cookies 

my friend I really need to those cookies to be bake I  has to 
bring  the six docen of cookies  by monday can you please do that 
work fo me i will apreciate you coopearation with this creazy 

THEE: Subject: amber stones and heels 

Put me in touch with the president of Mary's Center about those 
cookies.  There has to be some mistake.  

THEE: Subject: Skelter 

I can't deny that "Helter Skelter" is having a negative effect on 
me.  It's an ugly world out there and it always has been, I 
guess.  I can't put the book down, of course.  I will note that 
the Manson family didn't seem to like John Lennon, since the 
three most influential songs so far are "HS," "B," and "P." 
[helter skelter, birthday, piggies] 

I'm pleased to report that according to a new survery, 
10 percent of the worst traffic bottlenecks in the nation (that's 
two) lie between my parents' old house and your house.  they are 
495 at 270 and 95 at 495.  Considering that I rarely drive to 
your house during business hours, i don't think those sections 
are too bad.  

Amazingly, last Sunday's "Simpsons" was as good as ever, after 10 
or more years on the air.  

Who performed the '60s bubblegum smash "In the Summertime"?  How 
about "Band of Gold"?  My album of the week, "Le Disque D'Or," on 
French EMI seems to consist of a mix of top '60s hits done by 
original artists (such as "In the Summertime") and covers done by 
sound-alikes (such as "Something"), with no attribution anywhere.  
I can't wait to get to "My Sweet Lord." 

THEE: Subject: tire 

most importanttly, please make sure yuo bake 6 dozens cokies per 
porson, even id they are from frozen dugh.  do not bring cookies 
made by companies/gricerues stirs, etc.  (e.g. Giant, price club 
chips Ahoy,). Do not forget to bring the cookies on Monday, 
December6, 1999 If you are planning not to be here that day, 
pleade coordinate with a coqorker during the weekend so tht they 
can bring them in for you on Monday.  The fallowing agencies do 
not nedd to be included in your list: a tray os cookies wil be 
sent to them: Ayuda, LAYC,Clinica del Pueblo, Mary's  House, and 
Transitional Housing.  Each deparment is responsible for 
delivering their own cookie selected agencies! However, the 
proces of preparing the tray will be centralized at Mary,'s 

ME: Subject: holiday season 

I'm working on a big web page that I have to do even though it 
gives me no pleasure.  I've been procrastinating more than a 

Thanksgiving was good, as usual.  Smallest crowd ever - 34.  No 
raves over my cheesecake with strawberry topping, all homemade.  

That bad intersection at 95 and 495 must mean *south* 95 - the 
"mixing bowl" down Springfield way.  

In The Summertime I know off the top of my head - Mungo Jerry.  
Don't know Band Of Gold by it's title.  Billboard says there were 
2 of them.  The first made the top 40 three times, '56, '56 and 
'66.  The second is the one I suspect you have.  It hit no. 3 in 
1970 by Freda Payne.  I take it that's not the record you played 
My Sweet Lord from at your world's worst(?) music fest?  

WMUC is coming in un-oopsed now and, guess what, stereo, too.  It 
must have been their fault that I wasn't getting it in stereo on 
my new receiver.  It certainly seemed like it was a strong enough 

Heard God Only Knows in beautiful music on WWMD tonight.  Also 
Long And Winding Road and Bridge Over Troubled Water.  So the 
score is 1 to 1 to 1.  

THEE: Subject: 72 cookies 

I got your cookie orders.  I'm still amazed they would ask for 
something like that.  I was baffled by: 

> The fallowing agencies do not nedd to be included in your list: 
a tray os cookies wil be sent to them: Ayuda, LAYC,Clinica del 
Pueblo, Mary's  House, and Transitional Housing.  Each deparment 
is responsible for delivering their own cookie selected agencies! 

Maybe I'll have them made by Thursday (Dec 2).  


THEE: Subject: Thanksgiving 

I'm glad you had a good Thanksgiving but do you say that your 
dessert did not receive raves?  Hmm, must not be a very 
demonstrative family.  I'm sure it was delicious.  

We had a record-breaking crowd at my parents'--eight.  Good times 
all around.  Hself made two pies.  

We had a super relaxing weekend.  We saw David Lynch's new movie, 
"The Straight Story," which was very nice.  It's his weirdest 
movie yet, a G-rated Disney film.  (Really!) 

Our downstairs neighbor moved out.  That should mean a silent 
holiday season, followed by my usual terrified anticipation of 
what comes next.  

ME: Subject: vinyl 

I myself have been wondering how well Sunday was going to work 
out, although it's not out of the question yet.  Let's remain 
calm - they run these things every 3 months, I'm pretty sure.  By 
the way, have you ever searched Washington Post classifieds and 
estate sales for record collections (cheap)?  

Speaking of the Post brings the Times to mind.  My gut feeling is 
that they are having a very rough time.  I've gotten 2 calls from 
them recently trying to sell a year's subscription - for a measly 
10 bucks!  Still, I told them I don't want that junk on my lawn 
every day.  Actually, I tried to explain my dissatisfaction with 
newspapers in general.  It seems that they've also axed the 
Sunday edition.  

Ann Hodges came out of her run-in with a meteor with just a great 
big bruise on her leg.  I have seen the picture.  I seem to 
remember there was another incident where a meteorite crashed 
through the roof of a house with people in it.  No injuries, 

Oscar Wilde is another one of those British guys I will never 
really figure out who or what they are.  Just yesterday I 
listened to Patience operetta highlights (Gilbert and Sullivan).  
That one lampoons Oscar Wilde and the "esthete" movement.  

Was what you wrote about saying "Doppler" over and over a joke?  
It didn't sound like you.  

Do you know Freda Payne?  Besides Band Of Gold, I see she did a 
protest (presumably) song in 1971 called Bring The Boys Home.  

ME: Subject: where the heck is "next word"?  

Thanks for the JOVE keystrokes.  Now when I go to send an email, 
it only takes 2 key punches (alt 0) to set up the Reply-to: 

I shall resist ISPs to the bitter end.  

Has disk space become plentiful enough that there is a movement 
from text to voice email?  When that change comes about, I'll 
probably have to pull a pentium out of a trash can somewhere.  

According to articles that Hself sends me from the BBC site, 
McCartney denies the rumors about a romance with the model with 
one leg.  She does, too.  

THEE: Subject: Freda People 

Too many important items to discuss! 

Unfortunately, we need to do a scientific listening of "R9" 
[revolution 9] to see if we hear the word "rise" at about 2:40.  
Sorry.  You knew if I kept reading "Helter Skelter" something 
like that would happen.  If you just need a cite to the pages in 
the book that have the most Beatle content (so far), they're 
pages 321-330.  

Your items! 

b) I'd be too afraid to look in the classified section for record 
ads.  I might find too many riches and, remember, my ultimate 
goal is to always acquire LESS! 

c) My web version of the Ann Hodges incident says "She was hit by 
a meteorite, while napping in her Alabama home.  She suffered a 
severely bruised hip."  I give a link to my source: 
I'll repeat my findings in tomorrow's e-mail version, complete 
with ad. for people to look at the web site more!  Please 
provide all additional information you have!  At least one other 
recipient thought that was the funnest item in today's edition.  

d) I took a subtle swipe at Wilde by saying he was a genius for 
his trite "witty" remark about the wallpaper.  I'm unfamiliar 
with his work for the most part but I get the sense that he might 
have been a real pain to talk to, with his constant efforts at 
"wit."  Hself didn't want me to make any disparaging remarks 
about him because his prosecution for sodomy really did break him 
into pieces.  

e) I had a friend who liked to say, "DOpplER, doPPLer," 
modulating his voice in that way.  He's not on the recipient 
list, actually.  I guess I should cut back on the inside jokes 
but, hey, I gotta be me! 

f) Never heard of Freda Payne, but in a super-fast web search, I 

Well, I think that's about it, cept!  To wish you a happy 
evening.  Really, if you have any information you can share on 
Ms. Hodges, please do!  You better even send it to work so I can 
get it out to the masses tomorrow.  There's no turning back now-
-your report of seeing the photo must be included!

THEE: Subject: divertido (funny) 

you really made lught with that ad is close but the color 
anaranjado mean oreange and is not my color my color is rojo ok.  
anothor thing is about thurday I belive we should meet araund 
9:30 am and from here we can go to do some shapping in my 
favorite place in the past I know the cookies in now in  the 
stove for bakery and the suppose to come deliceus because you are 
putting all your imagination because remember I am the queen. 
Donal you really mean a lot to me you are so fun person and a lot 
time you make my day. son word you can remembe BESO (kiss) ABRAZO 

THEE: Re: take 2 

GOT the E-mail this time - very curious what happenned the first 
go-around.  STENT is a pretty common term in my humble opinion; 
its a tube alright, but its not used to connect, rather its used 
to drain fluid buildup (thats my take on it, anyhow).  Thanks for 
the compliment on my explanation of the cork trick - any chance 
of this trick entering your web-page, to live on in immortality?  

ME: Subject: scrabble news 

I got some very unhappy news yesterday talking with my former 
scrabble buddy Harry.  Our scrabble friend Hself found out 
recently she has liver cancer.  Harry says that she has accepted 
that she doesn't have much longer to live, maybe months.  I 
presume that's based on level-headed assessments, although I hope 
there's a big mistake somewhere.  

I'll be getting in touch with Hself to try to get up some wild 
scrabble sessions.  Would you join us?  It goes without saying 
how much it would mean to her.  

ME: Subject: rojo rojo rojo Rojo Rojo Rojo ROjo ROjo ROJO ROJO 

Hola Maria Teresa chicolita QUEEN! 

Your message was so funny I'm still laughing!  Also, I printed it 
out to study your foreign words.  

I played guitar duets with my Hself today for a luncheon at a 
fancy hall in Rockville today.  It went well.  We were background 
music, so I had to play as hard as I could to be heard over the 
conversation.  We had fun, but he had to leave to get back to 
work before we got our lunch, so I ate by myself.  It was tasty.  

I made cookies today!  Little tiny bite-size cookies - corn meal 
cookies!  Yum!  I used all margarine - no butter.  I put 6 dozen 
in a bread bag for you.  DO NOT LET THE TRES CONEJOS EAT THEM!!! 

ME: Subject: right! 

As a teaching assistant in astronomy at the U of Md. I actually 
mentioned Mrs. Hodges and her accident to my classes.  I saw the 
picture of her and her bruise only recently.  Maybe it was last 
school year at the James McHenry library.  For the life of me, 
I can't remember the book.  

I made cookies for my friend Hself who is required to bring in 6 
dozen (!) to work.  All her coworkers have to, too, and they 
divvy them up onto platters, I guess, and give them away to needy 
places.  But 6 dozen!  That's like a day's worth of work.  I 
wonder if they would just accept $200 instead.  

In the 2:30 - 2:50 range of Helter Skelter we hear "riii..." 
repeated many times.  Once I hear it end with a consonant - "t", 
for "riiiit".  The most prominent one follows that and is hung 
onto for several modulations - "rii-ii-ii-ii" but doesn't end 
with a consonant.  

THEE: Subject: Re: Beatle Game 


No, I imagine not many people send "extra"!!! 

Well, I checked my desk and it's not there.  I've called the 
snack machine people: I'm wondering if I sent it through thinking 
it was a one dollar bill.  

They said they would give me a call if they found a ten in the 
change box.  

I will be contacting a few other people I won auctions on too, 
just to check.  

They (and you) will probably think I'm nuts!!! 

I have a distinct feeling it is just lost! 

I'm just going to have to keep my fingers crossed!!!! Maybe it'll 
turn up somewhere!!! 


THEE: Subject: Mmm...tsaa! 

I knew you'd solved the riddle of "rise" as soon as I read your 
subject header.  I can hear it!  So thanks, or ta! 

If you ever come across references to Ms. Hodges again, let me 
know.  [i'm pretty sure the bruise picture was in a national 
geographic magazine]

ME: Subject: very important message 

    GET OFF THE COMPUTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

    GO TO BED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

    GET TO SLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


ME: Subject: historical event 

I forgot to mention there was a picture of the Hot Shopppes in 
the Gazette newspaper today.  It said 

   The Last Hot Meal 

After 60 years, the family-style Hot Shoppes restaurant at the 
Marlow Heights Shopping Center is permanently closing its doors a 
2 p.m. today.  The Marlow Heights location is the last Hot 
Shoppes remaining in the 72-year-old chain's history.  

The restaurant induces fond memories to many in the county and 

Maybe that was our goof-up - we didn't wait until *2:00* ! 

ME: Subject: magazine covers 

Spent the day helping my friend Hself run around and do some 
errands and shopping.  One little thing of interest was my idea 
of having lunch at the Hot Shoppes in Marlow Heights.  It closed 
at 1:00 today.  We got through the line at about 12:20.  Don't 
know how extensive the media coverage was, but Channel 4 was 
there.  If they had interviewed me, I had my speech prepared - 
"Hopin' to score some free grub, man."  This was the last Hot 
Shoppes, and one I had dined at with my piano buddy several 

Got home around 9:00.  Found a Gazette on my driveway.  Page 12 
had a nice photo, and the caption: 

    The last hot meal 

    After 60 years, the family-style Hot Shoppes restaurant 
    at the Marlow Heights Shopping Center is permanently 
    closing its doors a 2 p.m. today.  The Marlow Heights location 
    is the last Hot Shoppes remaining in the 72-year-old chain's 

    The restaurant induces fond memories to many in the county 
    and beyond...  

Also found articles and editorials about the MSPAP and education 
in PG County interesting.  That made the Post front page, too, of 
course.  I've been writing to our new superintendant, Dr. Iris T. 
Metts, with an idea I have, and got a call from one of her 
henchmen.  Don't know if the recent test scores might influence 
her thinking on my proposal.  

Amazed by the Dickensomania account.  

About Seurat, are you familiar with Sunday In The Park With 
George?  It was based on his most familiar painting.  I think he 
only did 12 or so.  In the Arena Stage production - and I 
presume all others - there was one fascinating little detail 
missing from the Sunday In The Park painting, portrayed by the 
actors.  Can you guess what?  Hint - you would be the only person 
in the audience to notice it was missing.  By the way, isn't 
Seurat a groovy anagram?  

You've mentioned your English classes on occasion, but I feel 
like I've never really pulled out of you what transpires in these 

THEE: Subject: Closed 

By now you may have heard that Charlie Byrd died yesterday.  It 
got a fair amount of coverage in the Washington Post. 

     So did the closing of the last Hot Shoppes: 

It's cool that you were there.  I have many fond memories of the 
one at the corner of East West Highway and Wisconsin Avenue in 
Bethesda.  It closed several years ago, but it still hung on a 
lot longer than most yuppies in that corner of the world would 
have liked.  

OK, I know you're not thrilled with this topic but here's another 
clue for us all:  A door removed from the ranch where the Manson 
family was living featured the words "Helter Skelter" written on 
it.  No surprises there, I guess.  However, above that was also 
written "1234567 ALL GOOD CHILDREN (Go to Heaven?)"  The door was 
taken by police in November 1969.  

THEE: Subject: Monkey business 

The only thing I spied in Georges Seurat's "A Sunday Afternoon on 
the Island of La Grande Jatte" that would be hard to show on 
stage might be the monkey in the foreground.  (Image attached!) 

I'm completely wrong, right?  

(See attached file: monkey.jpg) 

THEE: Subject: Wine and Water problem 

I've enjoyed exploring your web site.  Particularly the Science 
and Math section.  I wanted to respond to your train of thought 
on the Wine and Water page.  Specifically your extrapolations 
about the sizes of molecules and such.  

If the question was "are there more wine molecules in the water 
bucket or water molecules in the wine bucket," this argument 
would be valid.  However, just considering volumes, it does not 
matter as the volume of an object simply relates to displacement.  
A concrete block 1" by 1" will displace the same volume as a 
wooden block of the same dimensions (assuming complete immersion) 
and therefor have the same volume.  The two blocks abviously have 
different densities and numbers of molecules within, though.  

So the question comes down to one of simple volumes and remains a 
very elegant problem.  Thanks for sharing it.  

ME: Re: This may be a little rude, but it's not meant to be 

Thanks for writing.  I don't consider it rude at all.  I don't 
even think of myself as a "minor" candidate - just somebody who 
wants an idea to be considered.  


for information on all the candidates.  Within a few days they 
should have put up the responses to a questionnaire they sent to 
all the candidates.  

I hope that's of interest and helps.  

P.S.  It's worth buying another freezer for.  

>Hello. It happens I'm a high school student in California. We 
had a 'debate' about a week or so ago about the presidential 
candidates and who should win in 2000 (Slightly early, no?). Of 
course, the debate was restricted to the major nominees for the 
major parties. I brought up the question of why none of the other 
candidates were mentioned, and I realized that there was no way 
to find out who the other candidates even were.  

>I've spent the last week looking on the internet and in the 
public library here for a way to get a list of all those 
registered as running, and I haven't found anything. Do you know 
where I could find this information?  

>And thanks for the ice water recipe. Too bad our freezer's so 
crowded, or I'd try it...  

THEE: Subject: What about opus numbers...  

Dear Donald, Thanks so much for the Aguado site...  I am a great 
fan of Sor and Aguado (I use very short nails, with 1/8 inch 
thumb nail) I suffered for many years trying to use longer 
nails... breaking etc., and lost speed with no nails, so the 
stubby compromise has brought me some peace... anyway I have a 
frustration to share with you... Why do so many anthologies, 
including Noad et. al. fail to give opus numbers and call so many 
works "Study" or "Andante" etc. without referencing the ACTUAL 
OPUS NUMBERS which even Segovia over-looked... this makes even an 
attempt to cross reference a terrible chore.  Let's pass it on to 
our pedogic friends to provide opus numbers. This would forward 
guitar lore a long way... By the way Segovia has a CD with 7 or 8 
Aguado, Sor, Guiliani "Studies" (comments by Elliot Fisk), would 
you know the Aguado opus numbers?  Also, do you have any 
information about Opus 10... how many pieces etc. I have a short, 
beautiful " Pasoral " in Emi ( #17  I Think)... are there others 
of this depth in simplicity and sonority?  

THEE: Subject: serious junk 

What is the name of the lawyer or law firm who has your case with 
the accident?  

I think we'll be getting somewhere soon with this.  


P.S.  Any corn meal cookies left?  

THEE: Subject: parent list 

I made a list of parents - nothing fancy, as promised.  Still, 
since it's a purely text file, I or anyone else could manipulate 
it into other formats very easily with any word processing 

I put all the information relating to one parent on one line in 
the master file.  For the sake of this email, I've truncated each 
line at 72 characters so that you should get one line per parent 
in your mail reader - no line breaks.  In general, only some of 
the address is cut off.  

If you'd like to see the master file in another format, let me 
know.  There are several reasons why I went with all upper case.  
That can be changed easily if you can't stand it.  

By the way, among the many areas of student performance that 
adults might have room to complain about, penmanship is not one 
of them.  ? = illegible character or uncertain word.  There are 
probably many more instances where I was sure of what I was 
seeing - but wrong anyway.  

List of Parents 
Parent name  Phone number  Child's name  Address 

ME: Subject: surprise 

Part of me wants you to be surprised when you open your packet, 
but another part doesn't want you to go crazy any longer.  Yes, 
you put two tenners in your envelope to me (and no ones), so 
you'll be getting $8 change.  Glad it had a happy ending.  

ME: Subject: cellarful of ___s 

I found the news about Charlie Byrd last night while I was 
searching (unsuccessfully) for a nice little piece on Hot 
Shoppes.  Now I guess it was there, but I remember some server 
problem while trying to search the Post.  Man, they don't care at 
all about the little guy.  

About the Charlie Byrd news, it still feels strange to me reading 
about something that happened the same day (or at least the day 
before the papers will get to it.) 

How's Paul gonna get in the Cavern?  You know, Mike McCartney 
swore over and over at a Beatlefest that the New Cavern was the 
original one re-excavated.  All the fanzines made it clear that 
it was just a facsimile on a nearby site.  

Nice find on the Gramophone Company purchase.  Was that from a 
source with a Beatles angle?  Or did you just recognize the 

I'm up for another record show, even if they still try to sell a 
few over the legal max (25 cents).  

Was this challenge too easy?: 

About Seurat, are you familiar with Sunday In The Park With 
George?  It was based on his most familiar painting.  (I think he 
only did 12 or so.)  In the Arena Stage production - and I 
presume all others - there was one fascinating little detail 
missing from the Sunday In The Park painting, portrayed by the 
actors.  Can you guess what?  Hint - you would be the only person 
in the audience to notice it was missing.  By the way, isn't 
Seurat a groovy anagram?  

THEE: Re: surprise 

Thank you so much! 

I thought I had lost my mind!! (probably have!)  Actually, I was 
concerned I sent a $10 bill through the snack machine at work!!!  
Mighty expensive crackers!! (but they tell me that can't happen -
- it has a scanner) 

Thanks again, and I'm glad the payment got there so quick! 

Have a great holiday season!!! 

THEE: Subject: Sweat dripping off the walls 

We had a swell time sur la plage, even with our early departure 
this afternoon.  

I have to look at the Seurat painting to see if I could guess 
what would be missing.  Explain the anagram!  I don't know what 
an anagram is! 

THEE: Subject: Significa 

I bid on one of these, I noticed in the photo the box said White 
albums edition. Is the different versions available?  Thanks 

ME: Subject: beatle game 

Sorry about the confusion!  No, there is only one version of the 
game.  "White Album Editions" is just the name I chose for my 
personal company.  The idea was that I would use it for all my 
publishing ideas, whether or not Beatle-related.  

ME: As I mentioned in my message, I have a website that I use as 
a dumping ground for whatever comes out of my head.  In fact, I 
get many more ideas for web pages than I can get around to 
actually writing.  (Writing has always been very hard for me.)  
Feel free to poke around.  Don't be shocked by any screwy ideas 
that might be there - nobody is obligated to agree with anything.  

Most of the pages should have an element of humor.  (*Should*.) 
And I tried to make them interesting to the general reader, even 
if the subject matter seems to be very special-interest.  I give 
you a link below directly to my "book reports" page.  It jumps 
all over the place, subject-wise. 
  [now ]

ME: Subject: beatle game 

Hello friends, 

You have all recently successfully bid $4 for a Beatle Significa 
game on eBay.  

To reiterate, P&H is free if you mail cash.  Total = $4.  

Or, send $3 plus three first-class, $.33 stamps (and save a 

In my Ebay ad, I try to scare people away from sending tiny 
checks by asking for an extra $1 for handling.  Think about the 
overall labor that goes into processing a check, and think about 
how rarely a piece of mail is actually lost, especially if the 
address is correct and legible, and there's a clearly printed 
return address.  

And you could supply me with an address label, too.  It doesn't 
have to have to be pre-printed or have a sticky back.  


ME: Subject: making the little things count 

Here's some potential discussion material.  Just kill it if it's 
of no interest to you.  This is me beating my head against the 
wall as always.  It also relates to my curse of people not 
reading what I write.  It's two letters to the the superintendent 
of PG County schools.  MSPAP = a Maryland standardized test.  

Letter 1.  November 20 1999 

Dear Dr. Metts, 

I'd like to present an idea for your consideration.  Also, I'd 
like to be the one to give this idea a trial run.  

I envision an instructional aide position called a "MSPAP coach".  
I believe a MSPAP coach working full-time, one-on-one with 3rd-
graders, say, could make a marked - possibly astonishing - 
improvement in the MSPAP scores for that grade in that school.  

Letter 2.  December 1 1999 

Dear Dr. Metts, 

I wrote recently with an idea about an instructional aide 
position with the purpose of coaching students one-on-one for the 
MSPAP test.  I got a call from Kristin Pfeltz about my letter, 
and I am very grateful for the attention it got.  

This note is to thank you for the consideration, and also to make 
sure that I made clear what I was proposing.  Initially, Ms. 
Pfeltz had the misimpression that my idea was to coach a small 
number of students, about five, say.  In a long talk with the 
principal of James McHenry Elementary, Mr. Mitchell, I had 
somehow given him the same misimpression - which I fortunately 
managed to clear up at the end of our talk.  I can only suppose 
that what I am proposing is so radical that it has a hard time 
sinking in.  

Let me reiterate and emphasize: what I envision is about 10 half-
hour sessions per day, working with two students at a time.  That 
works out to about 20 students per day, which means I could get 
to every 3rd-grader in the school every week.  If I had started 
at the beginning of the school year, I would meet with each and 
every 3rd-grader more than 30 times before the MSPAP test.  I 
can't imagine that not having a major positive effect on test 

Ms. Pfeltz brought up Reading Recovery Specialists as something 
not unlike my idea.  Again, that makes me wonder if my proposal 
is coming through clearly.  My students would be getting 
intensive coaching in math and reading with the MSPAP test as a 
specific goal.  And I would be working with all of the students, 
whereas a Reading Recovery Specialist works with a very small 
number of students who need special help.  

Although Ms. Pfeltz was encouraging and suggested I pursue an 
instructional aide position through normal channels, it also came 
through that intructional aide positions such as I am describing 
don't exist; that instructional aides work under teachers - as 
opposed to the fairly autonomous position I envision; and that 
money is very likely a problem.  

None of that comes as any surprise to me.  In fact, that's 
precisely why I took my proposal all the way to the top.  I 
supposed my idea was new.  (I'd like to think bold, as well.)  If 
it falls outside of the domain of current "instructional aide" 
positions, we can come up with other words.  And while the money 
may be a big problem for any individual school, it wouldn't even 
be a drop in the bucket of the overall county education budget.  

Finally, Ms. Pfeltz downplayed the significance of whatever I 
might accomplish as a MSPAP coach.  Apparently the party line is 
that the whole education system takes credit for any achieved 
success anywhere.  This is hypothetical, of course, but suppose 
the particular grade in the particular school I worked with 
instantly shot way above county, state and national test score 
averages.  That should have profound implications - and I'm not 
talking about personal accolades.  It would behoove the board of 
education to add a 3rd- and 5th-grade coach at every elementary 
school as soon as possible, and eventually one for every grade, 
and possibly more than that later.  

As I expressed in my original letter, I think a teacher has an 
almost futile task trying to teach to a mix of students at all 
levels.  On top of that are discipline problems and the drift 
from basics.  I have this mental image: one grade in a school is 
like a huge boat that the teachers, expending all their energy, 
can barely keep afloat.  There's virtually nothing left over to 
make the boat move.  The coaching position I have proposed is a 
first-pass compromise between the current situation and the 
ideal of every student having his own personal teacher.  Might 
that push the boat along?  How fast?  How far?  We'll never know 
until we try.  

Thanks again for your time and consideration.  

ME: Subject: Re: Beatle Trivia Game 

Thanks a lot for all of your enthusiasm and support.  The game, 
in fact used to be the best selling item at Beatlefest.  It was 
right next to the cash register on the Beatlefest table.  I won't 
go into details, but Apple got huffy and everything fell apart - 
that in spite of everything about the game being legitimate! I 
haven't the vaguest idea why they came down on me.  And now I 
find out from Lapidos that it's ok to sell again!  Well, it would 
have been nice if somebody told me.  I say somebody has something 
to answer for.  

But it's friends like you that save the day! 

>Hi Donald! 

>Received my games and my change (!!) tonight.  

>I have left you positive feedback -- I tried to leave it on both 
transactions, but it wouldn't let me right now.  I'm going to try 
again in a day or so.  (it keep saying I have already left 
feedback -- but if it's a different item number???? - who knows!) 

>Thanks so much for everything!  I appreciate the great price, 
your fast (super fast!) service and your honesty!  I'm sure 
you'll do well on the Dutch auction.  

>P.S.  Have you ever thought of setting up a booth at a 
"Beatlefest"?  You probably could sell a gizellion (is that a 
word?) of them.  

ME: Subject: fab 50s 

I read as much of the 1954 book as I could before mailing it off.  
What a year!  What a book!  The H-bomb, desegregation, 
McCarthyism, *color* tv, the French get torn to smithereens in 
Vietnam, a rag-tag gang of anti-communist rebels take over 
Guatemala, Somoza already in power in Nicaragua for *17 years*...  
I'm here to say, history is a trip.  

1954 also told me something about my Victory At Sea record.  The 
NBC orchestra, which did the first one, was hand-picked by its 
conductor Toscanini (who retired in 1954).  It sounds like it 
must have been the premiere orchestra in America, playing to 
10,000,000 people at a time in its radio broadcasts.  I had 
figured it was a few old guys who hung out at NBC studios waiting 
to be called to play a few bars here and there.  They did a 
remarkable thing, rehearsing and performing a concert without a 
conductor after Toscanini retired, to try to keep things going.  
The concert was a smash.  Anyhow, maybe this has something to do 
with the first Victory At Sea sounding better than the second.  

Saw a Christmas concert at U of Md. last night.  It was ok, but 
too many of the selections were too serious, in my view.  

Why do I feel like Peter Goldmark had another accomplishment or 
two bigger than the LP?  Did he invent color tv or something?  I 
expected to find quick confirmation in my Fabulous Phonograph 
book, but didn't.  

ME: Subject: roofball 

You wrote a while back asking what can we do to bring some 
attention to roofball.  A few weeks ago I posted a message to inviting them to your and my site.  That 
seemed like the most closely related usenet groupo.  I hope that 
got some people curious.  

Also, I remember you asking how often we play the ball on the 
bounce in our version.  Quite often - it's the easiest way to go, 
actually.  The idea is you give yourself a lot more time to size 
up the situation.  The drawback is that it's non-agressive - 
mostly defensive.  It gives your opponent even more time to set 
himself up for his next shot.  Also, on our original roofball 
court, there were shrubs growing right next to the driveway.  You 
could put your opponent away if he was playing back to play on 
the bounce and you managed to get a shot to land just at the foot 
of the shrubs so that it would die there.  If he saw that 
developing, he'd have to make a desperation attempt to get to the 
ball on the fly.  

I think it's neat how the strategy and "flavor" of roofball 
changes depending on the roof and court you use.  

ME: Subject: fa la la la la, la la la laaaaa 

Thanks for going to the Christmas concert with me.  It was nice 
(even if it was mostly brain music.) 

Dress warm (calido?).  

THEE: Subject: History lives 

I left a bag at the grocery store last night and didn't discover 
it until they had closed.  I had to blame the store (the one on 
our block) for my error, but I think it's time to boycott them.  
They've had it coming for a long time.  

I wanted to know more about Peter Goldmark, too, but I couldn't 
find anything during my quick web search.  

You'll be relieved to hear that I finished "Helter Skelter" this 
morning.  I thought I didn't talk about it too much.  (But I do 
think my identifying an "Abbey Road" link is an important 


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