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Conversations with me, No. 29
Email highlights, ca. Jan 2001 - Feb 2001

Dedicated to the proposition that every thought that's ever been thunk may be of interest to some crazy fool . . .

THEE: Re: beatle games 

Yeah...I'm sorry--I WILL send the money.  With the risk of having 
you hear "too much infor-MA-tion" here, I work for a funeral home 
and the old joke, "people are dying to get in," really holds true 
right now.  We've been swamped.  We're thinking of taking off the 
sign, "We put the 'fun' in funeral!"  HA...that's a joke...  
Please forgive my tardiness, but I do want two games--one for my 
feller, and one for my feller's best friend.  (One can't have a 
Beatles thing without the other one having one, too...haha.)  

ME: I had some very nice holidays.  I think I stumbled on a new 
New Year's tradition.  After watching some fireworks with a 
friend, I baked a cake.  Not intentionally, it went in the oven 
right when it would be done at the stroke of New Year's.  I 
should have called the newspaper and offered them the story of 
the first cake of the new millenium.  (Actually, I belong to the 
2000 camp.) 

My email service with the Detroit Freenet is on the fritz now, so 
I can't revisit your last email, but I remember some sort of mild 
dig at southern-types who can't handle the cold and snow.  Man oh 
man did you touch a hot button there (exaggerating for humorous 
effect).  Take a look at my hardest-hitting web page, an open 
letter to Northerners.

ME: next on the agenda...  

Thanks for the visit the other night.  Things that occurred to me 
later were: With all the discussion of evolution, we still need 
to discuss that guy's lengthy email.  I'm very curious as to 
whether we could draft a response together.  One time I wasted 
about an hour and wasn't satisfied with what I wrote.  My claim 
is that he declared victory for his side without saying a single 
thing to support his side.  How do you say that to someone 

About trees losing leaves in the winter to conserve water: if 
that's an explanation, why do trees have leaves at all?  Then 
they could conserve water year-round.  

I took another look at the red light camera article and we need 
to revisit that for a few more minutes.  I also didn't get to a 
few observations on the rhythmic body, after bringing it up.  

ME: hey ol' friend 

All the holidays were nice.  In the Christmas season I played 
duos with my guitar friend Bob at a Festival of Lights in this 
area.  People really seemed to enjoy it - got lots of applause.  
I hope they realized it was all volunteer, especially whenever I 
hit a clinker.  

For New Year's I saw fireworks with a friend.  I declared they 
were "the best ever."  I've said this about fireworks dozens of 
times in my life; and whether they really keep surpassing 
themselves or whether it's an artifact of my good-for-nothing 
memory, I'm not sure.  

I don't know if ever mentioned me getting bitten by the opera bug 
about a year and a half ago. I would have never believed it could 
happen, but I'm having a great time with it.  I got hooked by 
tracking down some recordings of opera pieces that I play guitar 
transcriptions of - and the rest is history.  I've bought tons of 
old opera records at book sales and thrift stores - more records 
than I had bought previously, actually.  It's easy to do at 25 
cents a pop, or maybe a whole bagful for 5 bucks on bag day.  
Most recently I saw "Ha"nsel und Gretel" at the Baltimore Opera.  

Seems lots of people stumble on my web page listing my guitar 
findings from the Library of Congress, and several of them have 
asked if I could search up something for them.  Generally, I'm 
glad to, especially if it's something sort of related to things I 
look up there (19th C. American guitar.)  One contact was thrilled 
to find her great-grandfather on my web page.  He was a 
tremendously prolific - but forgotten - composer and arranger 
named W. C. O'Hare.  One man needed a copy of "Weber's Last 
Waltz" since it figures in Poe's "Fall Of The House Of Usher", 
and he's writing a symphonic piece based on the story.  In the 
story Usher plays "perversions" of Weber's Last Waltz on his 
bizarre talking guitar.  I ended up sending him 12 different 
editions dating from Poe's time.  

Last year my Beatle web pages won an award from the Mining 
Company ( now, I think), so I tell myself I ought to 
whip up a few more this year, in case there's another poll.  

Me and pop music have almost completely parted company.  Trying 
to find something listenable - never mind enjoyable - on the 
radio has long been a form of self torture.  It finally dawned on 
me that I don't have to do it.  The Beatles will always be in my 
heart, but I'm still disappointed there isn't a body of fans who 
think like me that it would be fascinating, fun - and easy - to 
pull together all the primary source material on the Beatles.  
Instead, we get ever more retellings.  

On a downside note, I've had an unbelievably nasty run-in with a 
crazy lunatic on the internet.  This creep gives new meaning to 
the words slander and harrassment.  And I was only peripheral to 
his main target, which was a friend of mine.  He was quite 
literally trying to drive her insane (and hasn't stopped yet).  
We naively tried to take legal action, which led to nothing but 
untold frustration - and a big waste of money.  We discovered 
first hand what everybody else already knows - that lawyers are 
bigger crooks, liars and idiots than the criminals themselves.  I 
spent months of my life documenting what this jerk was doing on 
the net.  It hasn't been fun.  

I also haven't been successful in getting a job working with kids 
in the public schools.  Or, I did - but it ended in a crash and 
burn.  You can read about it in this web page.  There's no links 
to it for strangers to find; it's for interested friends only. 

This is in complete contrast with my job at the same school at 
the end of the previous school year, which was a total joy.  I 
absolutely can't understand my treatment this school year.  

On the plus side, I'm "working" with a couple of 6th-grade boys 
once a week.  A friend of mine teaches the class (of two) in a 
private school.  They wanted to learn chess and she asked if I 
would come in and teach them.  We all have a good time with chess 
and Scrabble and Boggle and you name it.  

ME: I have to apologize for not keeping up with Beatle books 
anymore, so I'm not familiar with Jorie Gracen's.  Do you know 
about some landmark court case involving Jorie and her Wizard of 
Oz plates, or something?  My friend Hself discovered this when he 
was at law school 5 or so years ago.  I'm afraid I don't keep up 
with Beatle children anymore, either.  What's Heather up to?  [Me 
confused about Heather.  See further down.]

P.S.  Guess what today's mail consisted of.  





















A Val-Pak! 

THEE: Your tablature 

Some time back I came across all the work you have done on the F.  
Campion Scordatura.  I downloaded quite a few pieces, and 
although I managed to print them out more or less OK, I found 
myself getting very confused with lines and spaces and only five 
strings, etc.  I have therefore been redoing them using Alain 
Veylit's Stringwalker program purely for my own consumption, but 
having done them, I would like to make them available on the net 
(free), either through the Stringwalker site or another early 
music site.  I know they're not strictly yours, but Minkoff claim 
worldwide copyright on their fac-similes under Swiss law, and as 
it's your work I'm copying, I wanted to check that you have no 

THEE: Roof Ball 

I can't believe I found this site.  Last spring my college 
buddies and I came up with a version of roofball, very similar 
to, but different from yours.  I just put up some stuff on my web 
page about it, and looked for it, and found yours.  I'm glad 
roofball has been providing fun for many since before we came up 
with our version.  Anyway, in our game, we play with either a 
basketball or a 4 square ball (depending on the house) and you 
must jump, catch the ball, and throw it back on the roof in mid 
air.  Scoring occurs when the ball hits the ground, or is served 
out of bounds (but there is second service in some games) anyway, 
we had a tournament and everything.  

For more information, check out psuedosport page on 

This is really cool.  

ME: Whenever you get a chance, mention to Hself that "Donald 
thinks you're our only hope for getting our money back from our 
crook of a lawyer, and for giving Hself2 what he's got coming."  
When Hself's gone, there will be no hope.  

THEE: Subject: roofball mania 

Just now saw your message. Can't get over the fact that roofball 
is getting so popular. Anyhow it kind of puts me in the mood to 
play a little roofball. 

Did you see Ravens today? Man they are hot! We are superbowl 
bound. Team of destiny. How else do you explain a team going this 
far and the offense scoring maybe 10 points all year?  

Were you familiar with John Steadman? Greatest sportswriter and 
person Balto will ever know. He just died this week. Very  big 
deal around here.  

THEE: We have just been so busy here...hiring computer geeks to 
clean out computer and replace modem and hard drive.  Our three 
feline children decided to use it as a toilet.  I kid you not!  
Soaked the innards to the hilt and the whole thing went down like 
a lead balloon! 

Gosh, got such a kick out of the ending of your novel, Val-
pak...the actual, true spelling.  I was also exhausted when I 
wrote the Christmas letter and really butchered the name of the 
corporation my father help found. No one would be able to find it 
under least you were smart enough to catch 

Well, dear "e-mail/letter" friend, I can't fault you for falling 
for operatic music.  It tends to come with age for some of us.  
We rather like what we call "light" operatic music:  Sarah 
Brightman, some of Celene Dion's duets with Andrea Bocelli and 
the like.  But, we aren't musicians or singers ourselves so we 
can't appreciate it as fully as you.  

The only Beatle news I get is through a dear friend in Florida 
who kindly sends me updates on what's new and what Paul is up to.  
Speaking of Paul, the Heather I was speaking about is younger 
than his real stepdaughter and happens to be a woman (well, most 
of us use stronger language when describing the gold digger...) 
of questionable quality shall we say...  Heather Mills of jolly 
old England who has managed to lure poor Paul into her web, 
whilst using and dumping one man after the other throughout her 
life...  When he weds this one (and strong rumor has it that he 
will), hope he has an ironclad pre-nup or she'll take him to the 
cleaners within two years -- GUARANTEED!  And, don't get me 
started on lawyers.  I've known a few...the stories would curl 
your toes! 

Know nothing about Wizard of Oz plates and Jorie?  Perhaps it has 
something to do with copyright infringement??? who knows.  She's 
a fabulous photographer, an extremely interesting writer, smart 
and very nice person.  Perhaps I'll ask her about the Wizard of 
Oz thing! 

You mention a contrast of treatment from the previous year?  
Well, let me let you on a little secret.  THERE ARE NASTY, 
successful Realtor; a million dollar agent; a GRI working on a 
broker's license.  I worked for a top company and also a top 
builder.  By the time two very jealous "women" got through with 
me, my life was nearly over.  I was always hardworking, honest, 
caring to a fault person.  My undoing, I'm afraid.  In order to 
fight people of that sort you have to be like them--I couldn't 
and I wasn't.  I've gotten much stronger through the last ten 
years as a result, but at the time, I just FELL APART!  

ME: I don't think I ever told you about the most bizarre roofball 
messages I got.  Some guy from a government agency asked me when 
I first put up my web page, I guess to establish who gets credit 
in case of lawsuits (ha ha).  

We saw some of the Ravens today, but I didn't see any good plays 
in a half hour.  I'm still calling them the Colts.  Even Hself 
called 'em the Colts.  

Here's that roofball dialog: 

HSELF: Subject: roofball.  

When (dated) was your webpage to roofball first published.  Do 
you have any other dated documents on the sport.  Do you have any 
dated documents with a version using a racket or paddle?  This 
information is requested to add to office files about the sport.  
Ex. Pierce 

ME: It looks like I put my roofball webpage up in June 1999.  
That's the date of a file that I downloaded to my disk of an 
image I found on the web of 2 people playing their version of 
roofball.  I make mention of that picture in my webpage.  I don't 
have any other documents, but I'm sure you know of the roofball 
website, which I added a link to at the bottom of my page.  Nope, 
it never occurred to me to use paddles - roofball always seemed 
like a volleyball variant to me.  I am more than a little 
intrigued by your mention of "office files" on roofball.  (Are 
roofballers under government surveillance?) 

HE: I work for Patent and Trademark Office.  My group is 
concerned with new type of games including those related to 
tennis and the like.  Copies of your web site are being added to 
our files and we needed a date to put on them should they ever 
become of use.  Thank for you prompt response.  

THEE: Thanks for everything - the magazine, tape and the e-
pistle.  I've spent quality time with Street Rat-Bag, and Guitar 
Running Through It... and plan to spend more.  Also have in mind 
a few friends to share them with.  Best for me so far in the mag 
is the crazy Pyramid Schematics, the interview with John Doe and 
the Scottsboro pamphlet.  Got a kick out of seeing Dawn 
Culbertson in the credits on the tape.  I know her as a 
Renaissance lutenist.  She played once for our guitar society in 
D.C.  We also played together in a drop-in ensemble once, though 
I doubt she remembers me.  I first met her when she was playing 
her lute at a Md. Renaissance Festival in the early '80s.  In the 
Dec 1985 Soundboard magazine I found this curious little notice 
of a work in progress: "Mr. D.C. Culbertson has announced the 
imminent availability of his English Lute Songs Index.  He 
invites inquiries at the address cited above."  (Don't ask me why 
I thought all this about Dawn might interest you.  I went on 
longer than I intended.) 

After reading your last email, it became inaccessible on the 
Detroit Freenet's full disk.  I hope they don't clobber it.  Your 
story of the $1000 pain-killer shot burns me up probably as much 
as you, except that I'm not staring at a $1000 bill.  My spin 
on the situation is a libertarian one - insurance obliterates 
market forces.  If it weren't for insurance, and by extension, 
government forcing insurance on us directly and indirectly, 
supply and demand would keep health care affordable.  Otherwise, 
doctors would go out of business.  As it is, doctors can charge 
anything they want since the (insured) patient isn't paying for 
it (at least he doesn't think he is.)  People believe their 
employer is "giving" them health coverage as a "benefit", when it 
really means hundreds and hundreds of dollars per month that 
*could* have been part of the paycheck.  I strongly suspect that 
2 out of 3 health care dollars go to the non-productive middle-
man insurance industry.  At least I have figures showing that's 
the way it is with auto and home insurance.  Insurance encourages 
maximum dishonesty in everybody involved.  About the Canadian 
system, I only know what I used to read in a very conservative 
newspaper, but that is that any Canadian who wants state-of-the-
art treatment in a timely manner comes to the U.S. for it.  No 
doubt that's an exaggeration, but . . . 

You wrote, "I'm against SLAVERY!"  The way the rant plays in my 
mind is, "Everybody's got you over a barrel; you don't have 
anybody over a barrel." If you try to fight an injustice, nobody 
even goes to the trouble to say "get lost"; they just don't 
respond.  Like that letter I wrote about my experience at the 
school - I never heard a single word back from anyone I sent it 
to.  That consumed 2 weeks of my life.  

In recent years, for the first times in my life, I've had reason 
to go to our justice system for help.  Everybody - judges, 
lawyers, courthouse employees - treats *you* like the trouble-
maker, or at best a retarded moron.  

You refer to basic, text-only pages as "low-level web design" and 
the other stuff as "sophisticated".  Well, be that as it may, I 
hate the "sophisticated" stuff - makes my daily dose of junk mail 
(USPS) seem like fine art and great literature by comparison.  
How can people look at the web without wanting to pull their eyes 
out?  On the down-side, nobody designs with us Lynx browser users 
in mind.  And nobody upgrades Lynx to handle the latest and 
greatest HTML advancements.  I wish there was at least a small 
core of text-only people, so that we wouldn't be forgotten.  
When I say "text-only", I mean pages that are understandable by 
their text, and show where to click for such-and-such a picture 
or sound-file, if you're curious. 

No, Ms. Hself didn't "deserve" her whacking. :-)  I remember 
that you were talking and she asked you, politely enough, to go 
to the end of the lunch line - and you went berserk.  I have a 
very clear mental image of you wildly smashing her with your 
lunch box, and her not lifting a hand in defense.  She didn't 
raise her voice and just said, "Michael!  Michael!" with great 
concern, but no anger.  Of course, this crystal clear memory may 
have nothing to do with the reality.  

Yeah, a Skippy man is the guy who sells Skippy peanut butter.  
You laughed as you explained this to the guidance counselor in 
response to *his* question, "*What's* a Skippy man???" 

You floor me the way you rattled off works by composers like 
Foss, Cage and Kagel.  Here I thought I knew something about 
music! I've never even heard of Kagel.  I'm in correspondence 
with a woman for whom I'm tracking down some works by her 
composer-arranger great-grandfather at the Library of Congress.  
When I mentioned having seen a play by Zora Neale Hurston (of 
whom I had never heard before) she starts discoursing on 
everything Hurston ever wrote, and her co-writers, even!  When I 
mention Scott Joplin's opera Treemonisha (a personal fave of 
mine), she goes off on a great bio of Joplin by Ed Berlin (whom 
she knows well) and interesting reviews of Treemonisha I should 
read, etc.  Is there anything I know that everybody else doesn't 
already know 10 times as much about?  I won't even mention my 
ignorance of Rabelais. 

I'm still kicking myself for not picking up a batch of Spike 
Jones 78s at a book sale in Baltimore last fall.  All in all, I 
did pick up 176 records (mostly LPs) those 2 days.  My mom has a 
record player that plays 78s well - *and* has a built in 
cassette.  So I'm good to go, 78-wise.  I can play once, and 
listen ad infinitum.  

I'm not a Tom Lehrer fan but I picked up an album at the local 
library bookstore the other day because it looked old and cool, 
like maybe a collectible, even.  I'd say it dates from 1959, and 
would guess it was his first one.  The ordering info on the back 
was from him directly!  Anyhow, the songs were much "tougher" 
than I would have expected.  There were 4 in a row that tied in 
directly with things I had just been reading in the Street Rat-

You mentioned Jack Dean's collection of dirty jokes.  I remember 
one that Leo told to Mr. King's class - not that it was really 
dirty, just mildly shocking to my 5th-grade sensibilities.  In 
fact, my brother and myself got some good mileage out of it.  
It's about a man who never wears any clothes, and to repeated 
questions from his friend about how come he doesn't have on 
shoes, or socks, or a shirt or pants, he always answers, well, I 
live alone and I *never* get any company.  Finally his friend 
asks, so how come you wear a hat?  The guy says, "Well, you never 
know."  Great! 

Your diagnosis of me being a "sensitive" is right on the bean.  
To change that would require a DNA transplant, I'm afraid.  
This'll make you wanna puke, but last year I tried to pick up 
some money by doing the censuses.  I had a friend who said how 
much fun it was.  I also kidded myself it would be good practice 
in dealing with strangers.  (By the way, I don't think the census 
is of much value.  It *could* be, but it's not, being about 
income and the way you heat your house, good grief.)  I stuck it 
out about 2 weeks.  Everybody was so nasty, or at best, cold or 
completely distrustful, that I would shuffle along in near tears, 
hoping no one would answer at the next door.  

When you asked, "How soon they forget, eh?!" (in reference to 
Arbeit macht frei), that brought to mind a song I heard on the 
local college station (WMUC) recently.  The singer says, "I don't 
mean to throw a wet blanket on everybody's party, but am I the 
only one who remembers the bomb?" 

My page on dreams would not necessarily interest you at all.  
It's not about the meaning of dreams, but about the 
*impossibility* of dreaming the things we do.

Funny thing, just this morning that I'm sending this (Monday) I 
had one of the most bizarre dreams of my life.  I had become a 
complete nonentity - nobody knew me; I didn't know them; they 
were using my stuff like I didn't even exist, very twilight 
zoney-like - and what explained it all is that I was a clone!  I 
was shocked and devastated, and frustrated that I couldn't find 
out who or where the real and original me was.  

ME: campion tab 

Glad you had some fun with my Campion tablature.  Sure, you have 
my blessing to make it available wherever you want in whatever 
form you want.  I'm happy to see it made available to a wider 
audience.  One day, when I have access to a more up-to-date 
computer, I'd be interested to take a look at your work.  

By the way, others have converted some of my tablatures into a 
nice format using modern software.  I guess your work is done, 
but I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to work from my data files 
that I feed into my own ascii tab generator, instead of the 
output tablature files themselves.  Keep that in mind if you ever 
intend to do any more.  

ME: beatle questions 

I'm glad you like some of the questions in my Beatles game.  Like 
I say, I'm a very generous sort of guy and invite people to quote 
my site to their heart's content - all *except* for the Beatles 
game, which took years out of my life.  I still haven't given up 
complete hope that a business sort of guy might see the potential 
rewards for getting Beatle Significa into stores nationwide, if 
not worldwide.  

ME: Everybody knows Patrick Henry said, "Give me liberty or give 
me death", which is correct, but most people also know that he 
said, "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my 
country", which is wrong.  That's the one Nathan Hale said.  

ME: Subject: Re: Darr 

Yes, I'd be happy to take a look for Darr, Brand and Bayer at LC.  
If I can trust my memory and my notes, I don't think I've seen 
any Darr there so far.  He is not in the M127.D box, which has 
separate, original pieces for guitar.  There are other places to 
be searched, of course.  You noticed I already have some editions 
by Brand and Bayer?  Do you need them?  I guess you know about 
the Soundboard editions with a Darr article and some solos and 
duos?  They were SB XII/2 (sum85), SB XIII/1 (spr86) and SB 
XIII/2 (sum86).  (I see you joined the GFA a few years later.)  I 
only have one modern Darr edition in my collection, "Rondino" 
(Berben, 1973).  

Let me know what your deadline is.  I doubt that I'll find too 
much at LC, maybe nothing more than what I've already found.  

THEE: Fwd: Aargh! 

>Got a kick out of seeing Dawn Culbertson in the credits on the 

Yep, Dawn was also in the aleatoric big band that Neil feather & 
I cofounded in B-More.  We have 1 LP out on Wafer Face Records 
that Dawn's on & quite a few tapes (+ a bit on the 1st Stree Rat 

>I came up with an idea of a tape for you.  It'd be folly to try 
to put together something that tries to impress, either quality-
of-music-wise or guitar-virtuosity-wise 

Just to hear you play wd interest me - especially if you have a 
scholarly & obscure repertoire that can expand my horizons..  

>Your story of the $1000 pain-killer shot burns me up 

Ah ha!  If only the billing had stopped there! I've since gotten 
another bill bringing the total charges up to $1,300! Naturally, 
I have no intention of paying it! If it had been reasonable (say 
$30) I wd've pd it immediately but given that they've decided to 
try to rob me I'll resist them just as I wd any other crook! I 
could go on at great length about doctors, lawyers, & insurance 
companies but the person whose computer I'm using has just come 
home so I shd probably speed up this message writing.  

Sorry to have to make this so brief but I look forward to 
further correspondence! 

Live fast & die old, 


THEE: Re: an odd and end 

I've got an extra day off from work this week, and I have all 
kind of ideas about what I want to get done.  The ideas add up to 
about 100 hours!  So, I'm just doing a few things that I want to 
do.  I looked up printing in our one-volume-encyclopedii, (I keep 
buying them because they seem like a good way to have a lot of 
knowledge handy.) All three explain gravure printing and the 
rotary technique, which could be used together apparently, but 
none put the words together to form "rotogravure".  Could that 
word have taken on a different meaning in common usage, like 
"kleenex", to mean color pictures?  The vague connotation I 
recall for it involves a group of pictures that make up a 
travelog and keepsake memories of travel and personal events.  
Does Ringo's song, that you mentioned, give a clue?  

Well, on to my next project...writing our first newsletter.  I 
think I've composed the perfect one.  Unlike the perfect country 
music song, our mom does not get run over by a train in the rain 
the day we got out of prison driving in a pickup truck.  But, it 
does have some of those same elements.  It is the perfect blend 
of pathos, humor and exaggeration.  I've learned the style from 
our cousins' and friends' tabloids.  I'll send you a copy.  

p.s.  Just used spellcheck and they've never heard of "gravure".  
But they don't know who Ringo is either so they can't be too 

THEE: inspite of all those spelling tests...  

I'm getting around to this message late and I can't remember 
what the "alot" was about.  If you feel like it remind me.  I'm 

ME: I got the idea to go back to ebay and search on the word 
"alot".  There were 20,487 hits.  

THEE: Subject: Darr 

Thanks for your reply, I have already collected many of Darr's 
works (over 1,000 pages).  This includes guitar, zither, 
liedertafel (maennerchor) and his operetta.  For guitar he 
wrote many works for guitar duo and trios and possibly large r 
ensembles.  He used guitars like quint, terz, prim and bass.  He 
also wrote for guitar and string quartet, (I have two pieces in 
manuscript).  It may be true that he never published his guitar 
works in his life time.  Is there a manuscript section in the LC?  
Darr was also wrote quite a bit of Lieder.  It would be a coup to 
find any of this.  I would like copies of any of Eduard Bayer's 
works, I have a few things so let me know what you find.  

Frederich Brand is a littler more difficult.  I do want anything 
that has F. Brand on it.  The problem is that their was a F. 
Brand that was born before 1815 in Wuerzburg.  I don't care if it 
says Brand I want it.  Besides Solo works Brand wrote works with 
other guitars, strings, pianos and orchestras.  

Now we come to Darr other (more prolific?) side, the "ZITHER!" 
I have copies of most of Darr works published by Hoenes, some by 
Heckel and only one piece by Anton Boehm (& Sohn).  Kabatek 
(Leipzig) was his other publisher I have none of these.  

Heres what I need.  

Zitherschule Hoenes pre 26th edition.  Always looking for the 1st 
edition.  Hoenes is the authorative 

4 Tonstucke, (pl. n. 49a/b)(see zither and other 
instruments)(H) Submitted to Hoenes 9 October 1864?  

Drei komische Lieder fur 1  Singstimme mit     
Zitherbegleitung. (Hrn. V.  Seiter in St. Ingbert gewidmet.)        
(pl. n.82) (Hoenes) possibly concieved by 29 July 1865.Manuscript 
sent on 11 Nov 1865 

Irenen-Walzer(pl. n. 46)(Hoenes)Submitted to Hoenes, 9 October 

Reminiscenzen aus dem Gebirge (pl. n. 44)(Hoenes) Submitted to 
Hoenes previous to 13 September 1864 

12 Gebirgslieder fur 1 und 2 Zithern (12 Originallieder aus dem 
Gebirge?) (pl. n. 47)(Hoenes) Submitted to Hoenes 9 October 1864 

Alpenrosen, Landler fur die Zither (pl. n. 48) 
(Hoenes)Submitted to Hoen es 9 October 1864 

I need the title page to Walzer im Landlerstyl und Polka fur 
1 und 2 Zithern (pl. n.50)(H)(see Zither Duos)Submitted to Hoenes 
9 October 1864 

I need the title page to Alpenlieder-Potpourri, [Zither Duo](pl. 
n.55)(Hoenes) Submitted to Hoenes 9 March 1865 In Public by 9 May 

Der Sayoyardenknabe (Charkterstucke) (pl. n. 66)(Hoenes) 

12 Morceaux de Salon.(Hoenes) No. 1.  Espoir de coeur. Fantaisie 
Eleg.(pl. n. 63)(Hoenes) Submitted to Hoenes 9 May 1865 

No.2.  Pastorale(pl. n. 64)(Hoenes) Submitted to Hoenes 9 May 1865 

No.3.  Rondoletto(pl. n. 65)(Hoenes) Submitted to Hoenes 9 May 1865 

No. 5.  Une soiree d'ee au lac de Walchen.  Fantaisie 
Elegant(pl. n.75)(Hoenes) 

No. 8  Bolero(pl. n. 113)(Hoenes) 

No. 10  L'oiseau au foret.  Transcript.(pl. n. 115)(Hoenes) 

No. 11.  Gondoliera(pl. n. 116)(Hoenes) 

No. 12.  Souvenir de la Suisse.  Fant. Eleg.(pl. n. 117)(Hoenes) 

I need the title page to Reminiscenzen aus der Schweiz, Fantasie 
(pl. n.93)(Hoenes) 

I need the title page to 6 Unterhaltungsstucke, (pl. n.97)(Hoenes) 

I need the title page to Valse Brillante und Festpolonaise(pl. n. 

Notturno, Polonaise und Scherzo fur Flote (oder Violine) und. 
Zither (pl.  n. 127)(Hoenes) 

20 Leichte Tonstucke (pl. n. 147) (Hoenes) 

I  Divertissement (pl. n. ) (Hoenes) 

II Divertissement (pl. n. ) (Hoenes) 

III Divertissement (pl. n. ) (Hoenes) 

20 Tonstucke (Hoenes)Same as 20 Leichte Tonstucke?  

Letzte Kompositionen (Hoenes) 

Potpourri aus "Flotte Burschen" (Hoenes) 

Potp. "Robinsonade" s. Opern-Alb. No.19(cat.)(Hoenes) 

Potpourri aus Undine (Hoenes) 

Reminiscenzen aus dem Gebirge (Hoenes) 


Rondo gracioso (Hoenes) (Kabatek) 

Sonate (Haustein) (Hoenes)1 

Sta"ndchen s. Blm., Bd. V, H. 8. (cat.)(Hoenes) 

I would realy like to get alot more stuff from Boehm. I believe 
that these were his most folk like works.  

My C. F. Heckel of Mannheim I have the following.  If you have 
something I don't I would like to know about it.  

Jagd Rondo/ A. Darr Op.105/Mannheimer Zither Journal/II Jahrgang 
22 Heft/Mannheim bei K.F. Heckel p.169-171/pl. n. 875/(1858) 

Divertissement No. I/A. Darr/pl. n. 884/Mannheimer Zither 
Journal/III.  Jahrgang 4. Heft/ Mannheim K.F. Heckel/ pgs. 25-

2tes Divertissement/Mannheimer Zither Journal/ 5.Jahrgang. 19. 
Heft/A.  Darr/ii. Auglage? pl.n. 1017/ Mannheim k. Ferd. 
Heckel/pgs.145-152 (1861) 

Divertissement (IIIs )/fur die Zither/ Seiner Schulerin dem 
Fraulein/ Emilie v. Jordan/gewidmet von/A. Darr/Mannheim, K.F. 
Heckel/pl.n. 1054 

10 Unterhaltungs Stucke/ fur Zither componirt von/A. 
Darr/Eigenthum des Verlegers MANNHEIM bei K.F. HECKEL/Seiner 
Schuler Frulein Lina Lierheimer gewidmet/pl. n. 1181/ 

II Quodlibet/Zither-Journal 1873/16 Jahrgang Heft 7. pgs. 49-58/ 
no. pl.  number (Heckel) 

Damen-Schottisch (Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

Mein Oesterreich, Lied ohne Worte(Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

Sechs nordische Originallieder ohne Worte(Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

's Griawerl im Kinn. Lied ohne Worte(Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

Erinnerung an die Jachenau. Sechs leichte Piecen(Ant. Bohm & 

12 Tonstucke im leichten Style(Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

Blumenlese, Lfg 1 bis 6(Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

5 Piecen zur Hochzeitsfeier 

Reminiscenzen aus dem Gebirgsleben(Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

Original-Lieder aus dem Kornachthal(Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

4 Unterhaltungsstucke fur die Bass-Zither(Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

100 deutsche Volkslieder (ohne Worte)(Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

Grusse aus der Heimath 4 diverse Piecen(Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

Melodien-Album Enthaltend Marsch, Tanze, Lieder, Opern- und 
Volksmelodien Lieferung 1-6(Ant. Bohm & Sohn) 

Zither Duos 

Elegie, (Kabatek) (see zither solos) 

Gebirgslied und Jagerlied,(pl. n. 1324a/b) (H) (see zither 

2 Lieder, (Kabatek) (see zither solos) 

Lina-Walzer (Kabatek)(see zither solos) 

Eligie (3 zithers) (Kabatek) 

Eligie (1 bowed zither and 2 zithers) (Kabatek) 

2 Lieder (3 zithers) (Kabatek) 

2 Lieder (1 bowed zither and 2 zithers) (Kabatek) 

2 Lieder (1 or 2 bowed zithers and 1 alt zithers) (Kabatek) 

Lina-Walzer (1 bowed zither, 2 discant ziters and 1 alt 

Zither And Other Instruments 

4 Tonstucke, (2Z and Guitar) (H) Nocturne Walzer Rondino 

Music for other media besides Guitar or Zither 

Augsburger Feuerwehr-Marsch (mit Ges. ad lib.), Orchestra, 
(Kahnt.) Augsburger Feuerwehr-Marsch (mit Ges. ad lib.), Piano 
score, (?) 

Die Fruhlings zeit, lied (Lidertafel concert in Gotha).  

Donald if you can fill up my zither hole the missing works of  
Anton Boehm (& Sohn) I will certainly give you a copy of my work 
and pay for your services.  

Thanks, and may you have great luck.  

ps. oh yea I would like a copy of your "Rondino" (Berben, 1973).  

THEE: Subject: Deadline 

I forgot.  I am tring to finish up my work by May of 2001.  I 
have enough to write about now, but I could always use more.  
Even one guitar work published during his life time would be a 
very important find.  

ME: Subject: new new math 

I thought you might be interested in this website fighting "new 
new math": 

Did Hself tell Heidi that I thought her quartet "positively 
sparkled" at the U of Md?  (It'd be good for a laugh.) 

ME: words mostly 

What's "our first newsletter"???  Who is "our"???  What's the 
occasion?  Is it a monthly?  I guess I'll find all this out when 
I see it.  I've never met a real person who could use the word 
"pathos".  I always steer clear because I'll never disentangle it 
from "bathos".  But maybe there's hope - I never would have 
believed I could differentiate "exalt" and "exult". 

My American Heritage dictionary doesn't hint at any alternate 
definition of rotogravure besides the mundane printing process.  
I'm wondering what similar word you and Hself are thinking of.  
Hope to remember to do a web search on rotogravure before sending 
this off.  Ringo's album, by the way, doesn't have a song by that 
name, or use the word anywhere.  

The "alot" business is that we saw it on a punch bowl auction 
page and you thought it was a finger slip and I said that I've 
discovered many highly educated people in recent years who think 
it's a word.  The curious thing is that I absolutely don't recall 
ever having seen "alot" before about 3 years ago, and now I see 
it all the time.  And people are very skeptical if you tell them 
alot isn't a word.  The standard response is, "Are you sure?" 
Depending on the tone, this means they are willing to consider 
the possibility, or else that they think you're crazy.  Anyhow, 
that night I searched eBay for "alot" and found 24,000 hits.  
It's sad having to explain your jokes, but the subject line, 
"inspite of all our spelling tests..." is funny because of 
"inspite" ha ha ha.  

Before it's faded forever from everyone's memory, ask Hself how 
come that Raider td didn't count.  I haven't met anybody yet who 
could say, and I'm starting to wonder if we're dealing with the 
Twilight Zone here, or something.  

P.S. Update, from a web search: 

   In April of that year at Los Angeles's Cherokee Studios, Ringo began 
   work on the album which came to be called Ringo's Rotogravure. Ringo 
   had gotten the idea for the title from the Judy Garland song, "Easter 
   Parade." Ringo explained his title choice in a 1976 interview."You 
   know the song, `Easter Parade?' 'We'll get a photograph in the 
   Rotogravure' and I thought she was talking Russian or French...What's 
   she saying?... I have a book and I write odd things down and that was 
   one of them. So this year we did the album. It's a great title, 
   Ringo's Rotogravure. ...The tracks are like pictures in their own way.  
   Each track on the album is a visual." 

So was Rotogravure a well-known photo magazine name?  

ME: the quick note that grew 

Nope, I wasn't "smart enough" to catch your misspelling of Val-
pak; I just copied the name off the envelope that I got that day.  
Since your father sold out of Val-pak, I guess it won't hurt your 
feelings that mine goes straight into the waste can unopened?  I 
am a very low-level consumer, yes indeed.  

About opera, far be it from me to recommend any sort of music to 
anybody, but my appreciation doesn't have anything to do with 
being particularly musical, which I most definitely am not.  It's 
just a load of fun.  You have to put some effort into it, like 
studying the plot beforehand, but that all adds to the fun.  I 
probably didn't confide that opera is a more magical experience 
for me (I think) with a record spinning away and a bunch of 
reference books and librettos opened up in front of me on the 
table, than real, live opera.  There's lots of reasons for that, 
although even that could change some day.  

Like everybody else, I have the greatest mom in the world, the 
exception being that, in my case, it's true.  Just about every 
time I go up to Baltmore for our Sunday get-togethers, Mom has a 
few more opera boxed sets for me that she's picked up at thrift 
stores.  Is that living or what???  Just last Sunday she had 
Turandot for me, which I really needed because I'll be seeing it 
in Baltimore in a couple of months.  

By the way, I don't think I thanked Chesapeake Va. properly for 
being the home of the Dollar Tree stores, from which I bought 
myself a couple of $1 Christmas presents in the form of 
construction vehicle models, a bulldozer and a dump truck, whose 
parts you punch out of 2 wooden boards and, with only mild head-
scratching, piece together without tools or glue (although I 
highly recommend glue when you're all done.)  They are really 

Don't worry about not visiting my website - nobody who knows me 
does!  However, the web page I mentioned about Andre Stevenson 
falls into a slightly different category, being a sort of open 
letter describing a recent experience in my life.  I had to write 
it for several reasons, one of which is that didn't want to 
repeat the story to everyone who was curious, and while I could 
have said a lot more than what I wrote, I didn't want to say 
anything less in answer to the question, What happened?  It might 
sound bigheaded, but I can't imagine them finding anyone anywhere 
who'd have more of a chance of helping Andre join the human race.  

I don't want to build up my hopes too much, but I spoke with a 
principal at another school who seems genuinely enthusiastic 
about bringing me on board.  I'm waiting for the final word.  

I'm still laughing over me confusing Heathers and the way you set 
me straight ("Speaking of Paul, the Heather I was speaking about 
is younger than his real stepdaughter...)  I hadn't heard 
anything about her prior scheming.  My friend Hself gives me his 
Beatlefans when he's finished with them - and he's always a year 
or so behind in his reading backlog.  

Yeah, ask Jorie about the Wiz.  I mean, I guess there could be 
two Jorie Gracen's out there involved in the visual arts...  

I have to apologize for not going into details about the internet 
jerk.  The story about Andre is 8 pages.  The material I've 
collected on the lunatic is now over 400 Kb - and that's only 
part of the story since his activity extends to phone, fax, 
regular mail and involves not only his main target but her family 
and friends.  

THEE: Subject: ANDRE 

Would love to meet this child's family!  This kid 
needs to be isolated for a period of time with trained 
psychologists (and reading what you wrote, you probably could 
pass for one) who would maintain a strict reward and punishment 
system WITHOUT FAIL for a determined, useful block of time.  Once 
this child had the new roadmap etched into his little brain, 
perhaps progress could be made with him as far as group 
interaction, one-on-one interaction in full view and alone, and 
educational strides to meet his actual age and supposed grade 
level.  Above all, he needs to be removed from his home 
environment totally and perhaps permanently.  My guess is that 
this family is educationally bankrupt, on welfare with no one 
productive in the family and many children by perhaps more than 
one father, and possibly a home headed by females. Stereotypical, 
I know, but am I close?  Drugs, alcohol, prostitution?  This 
child had to learn how to be deceptive and manipulative.  Where 
did he learn that?  Where is this child when he's completely 
absent for weeks at a time?  What does he do when he's in his 
home environment?  Wouldn't you like to know these things?  My 
guess is that you have no way to know, to visit or to find out.  


Wouldn't give you a red cent for the people running that school.  
Frankly, you are better off OUT OF THERE and putting that KID 
behind you and MOVING ON as soon as possible.  YOU--EVEN IF YOU 
SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT.  Somebody is AFRAID to get down to the nitty 
gritty with this KID and it is likely (although I dislike the 
term but it is a fact of life today more than ever) a racial 
consideration.  FEAR in the hearts of the teachers: whites afraid 
of some sort of retribution from black organizations and blacks 
simply protecting their own because that is their only way to 
have the power and strength they feel they have long been denied.  
just too easy, and frankly, that attitude makes me angry and is 
just a cop-out of the biggest proportions.  But Andre is without 
question a victim of all of that! And you, my dear friend HAVE 

Time to dust off your clothes, pat yourself on the back and tell 
yourself that you are a dedicated, caring professional (even if 
they don't want to pay you what I think you are worth) who will 
one day be appreciated and noticed for his contributions with 
children and education.  

Ps:  If I'm totally wrong about Andre's background and ethnicity 
JUSTICE (3.2 YEARS) INTO THE TRASH.  In my earlier, Cinderella 
incarnation, I wanted to be a probation officer working with 
juveniles--would you believe!  I had the most fairy tale view of 
what a major impact I could have and my term papers heavily 
exhibited that idealistic view.  I am at my "old" age totally 
sober to the realities OUT THERE.  Not a pretty picture and so 
difficult to make even a little positive impact.  The problems 
are too big, too great and too pervasive.  And for various many 
reasons, many do NOT want these problems solved.  So in the 
25 years since, I've seen NO CHANGE FOR THE POSITIVE IN THE 

ME: Subject: edited by j.m.miller 

I had a great time talking with you today.  Shortly after hanging 
up, a nagging suspicion that I was telling you some nonsense 
crystallized.  Those LC pieces I was claiming were "from the 
collection of J. M. Miller" are actually from a completely 
different person.  The little stamps I've seen on lots of old 
European editions say, "Gift of J. B. Millet."  Sorry about 
leading you astray and maybe getting you all excited about their 
connection with somebody who has a Mertz connection.  During the 
conversation, I was wondering to myself why, having seen those 
stamps so many times, I had never previously made a mental 
connection to the Miller guy connected with Mertz.  Now I know.  
This is the sort of stunt my brain pulls all the time when put 
under the gun.  (I'd be a total mess in the orals for a 
doctorate!)  The moral is to never trust anything I say without a 
pile of reference material at my fingertips.  

I found those Fiset letters in the Soundboard endlessly 
fascinating, and reread them after digging out so much 19th C. 
American guitar music from LC.  That's why I had a memory of the 
J.M. Miller footnote in SB XVII/4 p29 fn3.  It surely made an 
impression like, "Oh, so *that's* the story behind my Mertz piece 
published here in America!"  (Likewise, I impressed Peter Danner 
by remembering a little mention by Fiset of the Stauss "Autograph 
Waltzes" arr. by Backus.  See his note at the end of SB XXVI p84.  
I only caught it by rereading Fiset after having copied the piece 
at LC.) 

I hope your thesis explains why the Schirmer edition of "I 
Montecchi..." has the exact same (almost) intro as the European 
edition of "Die Zigeunerin".  With all of your research, that 
question's probably child's play.  Don't laugh, but I might 
wonder if Miller didn't slap the Zigeunerin intro on Montecchi 
and claim that as his "edit".  Or maybe he's claiming the slight 
modifications to the Zigeunerin intro as his contribution.  (I 
don't have the complete Mertz; these are the only 2 Opern-Revue 
pieces in my collection.)  In going back to the Fiset letters (SB 
XVI/4 p21 col1) I found a funny littly thing.  Fiset singles out 
this very intro for praise: "Die Zigerinerim (Fine introd.)" 

Anyhow, I will surely take another look at the Montecchi cover at 
LC.  I'll also see if I can find any Mertz manuscripts for you, 
but I wouldn't get my hopes up.  To be honest, after having spent 
*lots* of time at LC over the last 19 years, I still don't have a 
handle on how much 19th C. European guitar music they have.  
Without having made a concerted effort to answer that question, 
it appears to me to be a fairly small amount, relative to the 
size of their guitar collection, and relative to the known 
quantity of 19th. C European guitar editions, which is surely 
huge.  That's ok - they're not *obligated* to have any, 
obviously.  Still, the curious thing is that they have about a 
*third* of the known 19th C. European works for guitar & piano.  
I think that's very impressive, if not amazing.  Could they 
possibly have anything like that fraction of the works for solo 
guitar?  If they do, how come I haven't stumbled on it?  If not, 
how do we explain the over-representation of guitar & piano?  I'm 

Besides the 2 Mertz arrangements discussed above, here are the 
other places he pops up in my LC acquisitions: 

      Mertz//Nocturne II 



Shide/Mertz/Deliciosa polka or Leonora polka 
  (I don't think this is "our" Mertz.) 

Mertz//PORTEFEUILLE fu"r Guitarre-Spieler 
  (Nos. 1-18) 

Sorry about the confusing "arranger/composer/title" notation 
which I try to explain on my web page.  The implication is that 
Dorn and Gargiulo claim to have "edited" or "arranged" Mertz - 
whether they really did or not - but Dabney presents Mertz's 
Nocturne simply as a Mertz original.  Anything there you need to 

ME: Subject: off to see the wizard 

Thanks for another great visit.  The album of 100 classical 
snippets which had you groaning as you left had me swinging and 
swaying.  After it played out, I had to run both sides again.  

My email friend Hself, whom I've been out of touch with for over 
a year, and whom you know from the Standing Stone (I think) video 
opening and closings, knows Jorie Gracen and will ask her about 
the plates.  

Was surprised to see the Yellow Sub Beatlefan dated from 1999.  
Is that the same restored YS movie we saw last month?  Or was it 
re-restored?  Or was there another round of hoopla because of a 
theatrical release and/or dvd release?  

Was also surprised to read about Ringo's Christmas album.  Did I 
know about that???  

The author of my "Divas" book knows his Beatles history - so well 
in fact that he felt it superfluous to mention Ringo's name.  
"Miss Nilsson had a bout of pleurisy which kept her off the stage 
for a year.  Such attacks are not unknown among singers..." 

My "Opening Nights At The Met" box set was still sitting there 
the other night.  I realize now I still haven't told you the 
vaguely interesting story of how I came to get it.  

ME: Subject: kids kids kids 

I'm still plugging away trying to get on board with a public 
school system that is one of the most troubled in the state, 
maybe country.  A principal from a nearby elementary school 
seemed enthusiastic about my offer to work with the kids two at a 
time for an upcoming standardized test.  She called to say that 
she's still working on it, but it hasn't happened yet.  

I looked up Ed Berlin's review of Treemonisha, and along the way 
found a review of Ed's "King of Ragtime."  It was all very 
fascinating.  That business about Joplin heirs tossing out his 
symphony and violin concerto and finalized Treemonisha made me 
want to explete.  Maybe I did.  I was a little bummed to stumble 
across negative comments here and there about Treemonisha.  A few 
people called it "boring".  Gee whiz, I was swept away by the 
delightful tunes.  What operas is everyone else listening to that 
are more jam-packed with hummable tunes?  

I don't think I ever mentioned how floored I was by your 
familiarity with Zora Neal Hurston.  I had only ever heard of her 
the day before, and you rattled off her life's work and history!  
Maybe you'd better tell me what you *don't* know before I try 
again to impress with my unbounded knowledge ha ha.  

THEE: Re: kids kids kids 

Thought of you as I caught a few minutes of the day's festivities 
in WDC.  Maybe next time.  And, hey, when you make it to the 
White House, I want an invitation . . . and a Cabinet post.  

> I was a little bummed to stumble across negative comments here 
and there about Treemonisha.  

Exactly!  One can't help humming or singing tunes like "We're 
Goin' Around," "Good Advice," "Superstition," "We Will Rest 
Awhile," "Aunt Dina Has Blowed the Horn," "Wrong is Never Right," 
and, of course, "A Real Slow Drag."  I suspect some of the 
critics are ragtime fans who only want piano rags, not opera.  
One guy posted a comment on the ragtime listserv, referring to 
Treemonisha as 4 hours, or as seeming like 4 hours.  What an 
idiot!  The St. Louis production flew by in 90 minutes, with no 
intermission; I was left craving more of the same.  

I attended with Hself.  He had gotten us free tickets in exchange 
for writing the review.  Only one show would fit his short 
schedule in Missouri for the Joplin Festival. It was basically to 
be the two of us and hundreds of school kids.  "Ouch," we both 
thought, but we had no choice.  Opera staff was extremely 
apologetic, but, as it turned out, the kids were the perfect 
audience.  Half or more were black middle school and high school 
students.  Many were actually reading the extensive program notes 
prior to the production.  Afterwards, several of the performers 
came out on stage for an informal question-answer session.  All 
in all, it was marvelous.  I've never seen a better adult 
audience; in fact, I've seen some much worse.  

If you want to read something *really* good, read King of 
Ragtime.  Much of it reads like a mystery.  If the story of the 
descendants' handling of Joplin's stuff affected you, read the 
story of Joplin's lost opera, Guest of Honor...

THEE: Subject: Treemonisha 

Finally got around to your comments on the Treemonisha book for 
kiddos and to the remarks about plausibility.  You'll love the 
article I'm writing.  It's a whole new spin on plausibility.  I'm 
telling you, every detail is there for a reason . . . .  Within 
the context of black folk religion, black educational history, 
and Joplin's canon, it *all* makes sense.  

THEE: Subject: Off to see the Microsoft Installation Wizard 

The one casualty of my installing our new TV early last week was 
the grounding wires for my turntables.  Somehow, they jiggled 
loose during all the moving and shifting.  I hate grounding 
wires!  Why do we have them?  Ask me what my favorite aspect of 
CDs are and I'll tell you:  No grounding wire!  Hself had to reach 
back and reconnect the wires--she's better with the light touch 
than I am.  I still hear a hum.  I need to investigate further.  

I'm looking forward to your report on what Jorie Gracen has to 
say about those plates.  Yes, I remember doing slow-mo with the 
VCR to check out your friend at the McCartney premiere.  

As you undertake your reading, you'll find that, yes, the super-
duper remastered "Yellow Submarine" did indeed come out back in 
the late 20th century.  So did Ring's Christmas CD.  Somewhere in 
one of those "Beatlefans," someone says that it was well on the 
way to being the worst-selling Beatle-related album ever, which 
is a pity, according to the writer.  

In the 1987 film "The Untouchables," the opera singer is Mario 
del Monaco.  (1915-1982, according to  He performs 
something called "Vestila Guibba," which I assume is from "I 

THEE: Re: edited by j.m. miller 

What a fascinating conversation and email!  Thank you very much!  
Please promise your confidentiality regarding the Miller research 
just until June or so.  Yes I was thinking of that jb millet.  
Another person you may have encountered is one Dayton C Miller, a 
flute enthusiast w/ a substantial coll who corresponded w/ Ms 
Bickford and apparently donated his coll to the LC.  

As for the intro of I Montecchi, Mertz had no problems reusing 
his material in distinct pieces.  In fact parts of I Montecchi 
are found in his magnificent Elegie and the Romanza Op. 13, No. 
15 and one of the Weber's last thought fantasies (Chanterelle 
issued all of these in the 80's).  There was a second ed of I 
Montecchi by Zimmermann in Germany ca. 1920 ed by H. Albert 
which had the same intro but an extended finale.  This was an 
early work of Mertz that he reserved for his own use in concerts 
and likely it evolved w/ time. I am listing all American Mertz 
related documents, scores etc in my diss and I'm not sure if I've 
seen the Dabney, Gargiulo or Shide/Mertz material.  

Could I obtain copies from you-I would need all of the front and 
back matter as well.  Is the PORTEFEUILLE fu"r Guitarre-Spieler 
(Nos. 1-18) in a volume?  Ditson issued these in the late 19th c.  
Is there a publisher listed (Aibl was the 1st publisher).  I 
thought the LC was missing some of the earlier numbers (#2) and 
included numbers 19-21.  Thus w/ this volume the LC has a 
complete run of that series.  

I found your observations regarding the curious quantity of 
guitar and piano versus solo guitar lit. fascinating.  I hope 
this means you will someday discover some hidden treasures!  

THEE: Subject: Walter Jacobs 

Hope all's well.  Just wondering if you'd found "Jacobs' Easy 
Guitar Folio" and, if so, what you thought of it.  

ME: Subject: send in the clowns 

Although I might alert people to my school experience web page, I 
absolutely do not authorized anyone to waste 8 pieces of printer 
paper on it!  Even if it's the back of scrap paper, it could have 
been used for something else.  

Yes, the tear-jerker is from (I) Pagliacci.  If you copied the 
spelling exactly, you've been duped 2x.  It's "Vesti la giubba".  

Sorry about the ground wire headaches.  I know them well, myself 
(the headaches, not the darn wires.)  I remember thinking a 
similar thing about cd players' ground wirelessness.  In my mind, 
it was more like, hey, this ain't fair.  

Finished the complete Turandot today.  It's got a pretty cool 
story.  Puccini died just before finishing up the music.  

I put my car in the shop today.  Looks like mostly good news.  
The most serious problems will be covered by the service plan, 
which expires in 8 days, which is why I bit the bullet and took 
the car in.  

ME: Subject: montagues and gypsy girls 

No problem with the Miller research confidentiality - I'm not 
sure I know anything to be leaked!  Once again, sorry I got him 
all fumbled up with Millet.  

Thanks for the story on the intro of I Montecchi.  Of course, I 
had wondered if Mertz had just reused it, but I was kind of 
hoping for an answer with more intrigue!  Another reason I 
thought it was bizarre that I Montecchi and Die Zigeunerin would 
have the same intro is that I had assumed (naughty, naughty!) 
that they were both part of the Opern-Revue series.  You've set 
me straight now.  

I'm ashamed to admit that I only have one of the Chanterelle 
volumes - Vol. IV Bardenkla"nge (Hefte 8-15).  In truth, the 
complete Mertz has long been number 1 on my guitar music wish 

I will gladly send you copies of Dabney, Gargiulo and Shide/Mertz 
material, with the front and back matter (some of which may have 
to wait until my next LC visit.)  You left off Dorn because you 
have it, I guess?  

Yes, the PORTEFEUILLE fu"r Guitarre-Spieler (Nos. 1-18) is in a 
volume.  But bound by whom, I don't know.  These were all 
published by Aibl.  When you say 

> I thought the LC was missing some of the earlier numbers (#2) 
and included numbers 19-21.  Thus w/ this volume the LC has a 
complete run of that series.  

it makes me think there must be a second batch of them somewhere 
at LC which I haven't come across.  

THEE: Subject: Punk rock! 

I'm listening to the Shaggs' CD, "Philosophy of the World" 
tonight.  It's really painful.  

Thanks for the correction on "Vesta la Giubba."  I'll have to 
show you the credit at the end of "The Untouchables."  it's hard 
to read, even with our new super-duper TV.  

I just started "A Day in the Life" by Mark Hertsgaard.  So far, 
I'm underwhelmed.  He seems to be using Lewisohn as the basis for 
a narrative history of the recording sessions.  That's OK by me, 
I guess, since I've noted in the past how Lewisohn avoids 
narrative at all costs most of the time.  One issue he raised 
that piqued my curiosity:  How did Ring and John avoid national 
service, which was compulsory until 1960?  Ill health and weak 

THEE: Re: Darr 

When you are looking for Darr's zither music, would you see if 
there are any "Mannheimer Zitherjournal".  published by K. F. 
Heckel.  I own Jarhgang I and IV.  This is scored music for 
zither solo and duos.  I know Darr appears in other Jahrgang like 
Jarhgang II.  I would like copies of the Inhalt of all volumes 
except I & IV.  Also P.Ed. Hoenes publisher a "Zithersignale" 
(text)  I believe that there is a Biography in one of those 
editions.  Just a hunch.  If you are ever in NYC the PUBLIC 
LIBRARY has the complete run I believe.  

ME: Subject: jacobs' easy folio 

That was kind of you, to get back in touch about the Jacobs' Easy 
Guitar Folio.  Yes, I looked for it at the Library of Congress.  
I couldn't find it in the most likely place, but that doesn't 
mean it's not there somewhere.  I did find Jacobs' Easy Guitar 
Folio, Vol. 2 (1900).  I copied a few pieces from it which looked 
like the most fun (Happy Jap, The Pixies, and Bostonian March and 
Two-Step), but, to be honest, most of the contents look like the 
post-1900 Jacobs pieces I would regularly pass over when I was 
going through the boxes for solo guitar arrangements.  (I often 
rationalized my decision by telling myself, "This is really just 
guitar 1 of a duo, anyhow.) 

I didn't want to put you to any trouble, but you do have me 
curious about the first volume of Jacobs' Easy Guitar Folio.  
Really, I wouldn't want you to send the whole thing, but if you 
would copy the table of contents (or was that on the missing page 
1?) and one or 2 of your favorites not listed on my web page, I 
would be very appreciative.  No more than 5 pages - which you can 
send off for one stamp.  Thanks! 

ME: Subject: fiset...  

I got a kick out of seeing the Fiset arrangement in the 
Soundboard that came yesterday.  Still chuckling about your 
comment, "one might wonder about... Sheppard's reaction..."  That 
piece sure keeps you on your toes - even after a simplification 
here and there.  

Always keep in mind that anything in my collection from LC is 
yours for the asking - don't be shy!  Something that comes to my 
mind is Foden's arrangement of Lange's Flower Song.  It must have 
been a very popular piece, based on the number of transcriptions, 
and I think Foden's is the most artistic.  Also, some readers 
might have fun comparing it with Hildreth's Farewell To The 

ME: Subject: darr 

Yes, I got your wish list and I've put in a little effort looking 
for Darr at LC.  I'm afraid we're not going to find much there.  
I was wondering if you'd like to give a call to talk a few 
minutes about what I have and haven't found there.  Phone calls 
are cheap nowadays, and that would be much easier than trying to 
communicate through our fingertips.  

ME: Subject: mc 

I've been to LC a couple of times lately, and it looks like we're 
not going to find much mandocello there, at least as a featured 
or solo instrument.  I was wondering if you'd like to give a call 
to talk a few minutes about what I have and haven't found.  

ME: Subject: le nozze di baskerville 

One more correction and I think we have it - Vesti la giubba.  
Vesti with an "i".  

Hey I could go for a Holmes opera, as long as it's written by one 
of them Verdi/Bellini/Rossini boys who weren't afraid to throw in 
a song here and there.  

Mostly writing to ask about when we can get to the used book 
store in Wheaton.  This weekend is the last one of the month.  
I'm free Saturday.  Et, too?  

Got my car back from the dealer's shop.  Had 'em do everything 
covered by the service plan.  Makes you feel like you got $850 
worth of work for $100 (the deductible.)  That's if you forget 
the service plan cost $500 (in 1996 dollars), and the $35 I paid 
to have the plan transferred.  Still, I can't complain.  

Had a very nice time at LC today.  Quick service; found most 
everything I was looking for, and some goodies I wasn't.  I'm 
actually helping 4 researchers who found me on the internet find 
things at LC.  

I have another meeting with the principal at Seabrook elementary 
this Friday.  She wants to set things up with the 3rd grade 
teachers whose students I'll be working with.  

THEE: Re: jacobs' easy folio 

You're welcome.  Actually, I have little contact with other 
guitarists, and I haven't met anyone in person who shows more 
than polite interest in this stuff, so it's nice to have someone 
to "talk" to about it.  I'd be happy to send off the material you 
request, and I'll respect your desire to limit paper, but I may 
have to go to two stamps.  A lot of volume one is arranged "for 
one or two guitars" which seems to be essentially true; the first 
guitar parts do work as solos, and the 2nd guitar is often little 
more than what we would call chord vamps.  If you could send me 
what you have of volume two. . .  

Much of Vol. 1 is also pretty insipid, such as the aptly named 
"Sweet Pretty Waltz", but others like Boston Visit Valse and the 
unfortunately named "Howdy, Darkies" are interesting.  I'll send 
them off as soon as possible.  

Let me ask you about another matter.  I've also got a copy of 
Jacobs' Easy Folio for Mandolin Orchestra, laboriously made from 
microfilm.  It's missing the first 2 pieces of the first mandolin 
score.  I'm trying to work on them with a mandolinist friend, and 
wonder if you might have seen this collection somewhere.  

THEE: Up to my old tricks 

I haven't replied from work to a message you sent home in a 
while.  Do you know how much trouble I had composing the previous 

Thanks for the message.  I found it last night, after I got home 
from Night One of teaching [esl] in this new semester.  I had 
trouble with that sentence, too.  Class went pretty well.  It's 
the largest one I've ever had, and I always have large classes.  
We had folding chairs down the aisles and along the sides.  
Typically, the number of attendees drops off dramatically in the 
first several weeks.  

I continue to read Hertsgaard's "A Day in the Life." He 
dramatically breaks no new ground.  I think I've read 90 percent 
of his sources.  I did not appreciate reading today on the bus 
that the lads smoked a jernt in the Buck Hose gents'.  A 
highlight of "Anthology" for me remains George's somewhat 
quizzical expression when he denies that that ever happened.  

Also, here's an old one:  Are you (Mr. Hertsgaard) trying to tell 
me that the Fabs accosted sailors for their rare 45s as they got 
off boats from the U.S.?  Are sailors known for their love of 
rarities?  Actually, Paul offers an awesome alternative 
explanation for why the Fabs covered obscure tunes.  The answer's 
so obvious that i felt dumb not thinking of it myself.  It's in 
the "Run Devil Run" promotional interview in one of the 
"Beatlefans" I just gave you.  

THEE: Subject: impressed by your karma 

dear donald i am a guitarist living in australia recently 
completed my masters degree and first cd released am very 
interested in flamenco and spent some time studying in italy at 
the centro romano della gitarra under maestro regio notaro and 
lucio dosso feel a little isolated in australia and would love to 
bounce a few ideas off someone with a real passion for the guitar 
in the pursuit of excellence soon vincenzo 

THEE: Subject: Comments? 

THEE: Re: jacobs' easy folio 

I just wanted to let you know that I'm having trouble finding my 
copy of the Easy Folio (I play from my intabulatiions.  Lute 
players!).  I hope to have time to do a better search over the 


You've got me curious!  I promise I'll have no problems keeping 
[whatever it is] under wraps.  Thanks! 


>I have just the thing in mind for you, but you have to promise 
not to spread it around, ok? Almost none of it is in the public 
domain, and it's all in manuscript.  

THEE: Subject: misguided effort 

Mr Sauter-- I was disturbed to see that your response to 
increased trash pick up fees is to cease recycling.  I do not 
disagree with your assessment of the inappropriate trash fee 
increase, but I strongly disagree with your "solution".  Frankly, 
county execs are not going to see the difference, and meanwhile 
you propose to increase resource consumption and hasten our march 
toward the day when we will pay far greater prices, either 
monetarily or more likely in drastic reduction of living 
standards for all, because we were profligate with our use of 
natural resources.  I  think a far more effective effort would be 
to attend and speak at PG County Board meetings, and bring 
together a citizen group to increase media attention and force 
the county to account for the fee increases, or change their 
pricing policy.  I will join you if you do.  

THEE: Re: misguided effort 

Thanks for your thoughts.  I freely admit my proposal is more 
spitefulness than solution.  I have to wonder, though, if they 
have to charge me for my recycling if there really is any benefit 
to recylcing.  Maybe filling up landfills and mining them 
somewhere down the road - for a profit - is actually more 
sensible.  I already spend way to much of my life beating my head 
against walls to attend PG board meetings - they've all heard 
from me enough - but I'd be happy to my signature on a petition 
someone else gets going.  Also, I can assure you that my open 
letter has had minimal, if any, effect.  (Yours is the first 
response ever.) As far as resource consumption is concerned, I'm 
sure I'm in the bottom 0.01% (yes, I wrote that right) relative 
to all Americans.  I could write the book on the wonderfulness of 
a minimally consumptive lifestyle.  I think we're really in basic 
agreement about resources and the environment, even if my testy 
call for a recycling boycott would superficially suggest 
otherwise.  Again, thanks for your thoughts.  

ME: Subject: lichner 

Just wanted to say that I finally got together with my piano 
partner after a long break and got a chance to hear Lichner's 
Forget-Me-Not.  You're right - it's very nice.  Something about 
it seems instantly familiar, even though I don't feel any other 
specific piece trying to come to mind.  I could believe it was 
written by one of the "big boys" (Beethoven, Schumann, 
Schubert...?)  Thanks for bringing it to my attention.  Hope the 
transcription is working out.  If you come up with a good one, I 
suggest you send it to Richard Yates of Soundboard magazine.  

ME: Subject: webers last waltz 

I was wondering if you ever got the batch of Weber's Last Waltz 
versions I sent in December?  How's the tone poem going?  

ME: Subject: our pal andre 

Thanks for all your sympathetic feedback on my "open letter" 
about my experience at the school.  

>I just took the time to print and read all eight pages 

Really, though, you weren't authorized to waste 8 good sheets of 
printer paper on it!  All your suppositions to fill in the gaps 
in the saga were more-or-less right on.  Yes, your 3.2 years in 
criminal justice has held you in good stead.  Here's a bit more.  

>at what I'm supposing is a private school.  

No, actually Glenridge Elementary is a Prince George's County 
public school.  

>I'm only too happy to learn that your school experience, with 
what seems like an "autistic" child but is actually a child who 
is very obviously highly manipulative for his own purposes, 
wasn't about something that may have put you behind bars. Would 
love to meet this child's family! 

I don't think so.  Andre's mother is missing and/or in jail much 
of the time.  The only other person in his house is a decrepit 
great-grandfather.  Andre's mother almost stabbed his father to 
death.  One of Andre's uncles was torched by family members.  
Andre was sitting by another uncle on the porch once when someone 
came up and blew the uncle's brains out.  

The Ms. Hself in the story is a black woman who loves Andre and 
has tried unsuccessfully to adopt him.  She got to know Andre's 
family, but admitted to being afraid for her life on her first 
visit.  She kept near the front door, ready to bolt.  On other 
trips to the neighborhood, she was harrassed by police, if you 
can believe that.  

Ms. Hself took me by surprise once when she said that a reason 
that the school administration is so opposed to my means of 
reprimanding Andre was not out of a concern for him, or a fear of 
lawsuits, but maybe a concern for *my* well being.  Apparently, 
there was some school action taken against Andre one time that 
resulted in a whole carful of Stevensons (Andre's family) showing 
up one morning at the school.  Not the best way to start your 

>This kid needs to be isolated for a period of time with trained 
psychologists (and reading what you wrote, you probably could 
pass for one) who would maintain a strict reward and punishment 
system WITHOUT FAIL for a determined, useful block of time.  

Thanks.  Sorry if it sounds big-headed or obnoxious, but I don't 
think there's a person in ten thousand who would have a better 
chance to make a difference in Andre's life.  

>Above all, he needs to be removed from his home environment 
totally and perhaps permanently.  

Right, although his mother won't allow it.  

>My guess is that this family is educationally bankrupt, on 
welfare with no one productive in the family and many children by 
perhaps more than one father, and possibly a home headed by 
females. Stereotypical, I know, but am I close?  Drugs, alcohol, 

Surely right on target, except that, as far as I know, Andre is 
an only child.  

>Wouldn't give you a red cent for the people running that school.  
Frankly, you are better off OUT OF THERE and putting that KID 
behind you and MOVING ON as soon as possible.  

Great news!  The principal at another school in my area listened 
to my proposal and accepted it without modification.  I am now at 
Seabrook Elementary School working full-time with 3rd-graders, 
two at a time in 45-minute sessions, expressly for the purpose of 
raising scores on upcoming standardized tests.  I enjoy it 
immensely.  Even going over the same material stays fresh when 
you're working with different kids all the time.  I work with 12 
or 14 students a day.  I could see doing this for a long time and 
hope that it will lead to a salaried position.  (Right now I'm 
being paid as a substitute.)  The school is only a 9 minute walk 
from home - which is worth thousands of bucks a year to me.  

Now about "putting that KID behind" me...  




















Yep, on my third day there, I look up and who's standing there 
but my ol' pal Andre!  It would take too much typing to go into 
*that* story, but here are a few words.  I was deathly curious 
about how things were going at Glenridge with Andre after I left 
- and now I know!  Obviously, my departurre did not pave the way 
for a new and improved Andre Stevenson.  And you'll never know 
the enjoyment I get watching Andre in action at Seabrook - now 
that he's not my responsibility.  They're still trying to 
*lecture* him, fer crying out loud!  Sometimes it's three on one 
- and he just mows 'em down!  Yeeee-haa!   Hey, I wouldn't lift a 
finger, or open my mouth, even, if I saw him lighting a stick of 
dynamite.  Not my job, ya know.  Might get myself fired, ha ha.  

ME: Subject: not much 

Responded to a man in Beltsville who was displeased with my call 
for a recycling boycott in PG.  Tried to be conciliatory.  
Anyhow, I don't see that I've been overly successful so far, ha 

Thanks for the fine Post article on [beatle album] 1.  I'd like 
to think that the liner notes say more or less what the Post 
writer said, but I doubt they do.  By the way, is LMD really on 

Regarding Matt Busby, what is a "bombed out Old Trafford"???  
Took me half way through the article before I realized we were 
talking about football, and that Manchester United is a team.  

I spent a large part of Saturday getting mailings off to folks 
I'm finding things for at LC.  Felt good.  

Rousing game of Pictionary (my rules, of course) up in Baltimore 
yesterday.  Couldn't win that, or either card game.  

THEE: Subject: You can say that again 

Not much?  Same.  

We had another of our lazy weekends.  I had to watch Oliver 
Stone's film "Born on the Fourth of July" on Friday, in order to 
write a CDNow review.  The film is a master work, but unwatchable 
at times.  

I, too, found the Matt Busby article almost incomprehensible.  
Now we both know more than most Beatle peedles about the late Sir 

Didn't "LMD" hit numero uno in the U.S.?  I don't recall seeing 
liner notes.  What the booklet does contain is photos of tons of 
foreign picture sleeves.  I liked it.  

THEE: Subject: LC music! 

W-O-W!  Was that ever worth the wait . . .  

I grabbed the packet from my mailbox about 4:45, quickly thumbed 
through it, and had to race from the house to take our dog to the 
vet to have an ear infection treated.  Sitting there waiting, I 
kicked myself again & again for not taking the music with me 
because I hadn't had time to see what was *really* there.  Even 
now, I haven't completely absorbed it, but I have thumbed through 
the full contents.  

THEE: Re: jacobs' easy folio 

I still haven't found the Easy folio.  I may ahve lent it out to 
a friend.  I did, however, find my photocopy of "Six Pieces for 
Guitar and Piano", George Neville, London, 189(1?).  I can send 
that if your interested.  

THEE: Subject: Guitar Music 

I sent my last e-mail, went home, and found your kind package.  
It made a great break from shoveling snow (not done yet).  I 
haven't had a chance to even really look at the music yet, but it 
seems to me that a lot of it may not be "great" in the old, 
European sense of "grand" or "transcendent", but it is great in 
the newer, American sense of "this stuff is great" or "everybody 
had a great time."  Certainly, it has the potential to be as 
great as much Renaissance lute music (Attaignant's "18 Basse 
Dances" for example) for supplying hours of pleasure.   And what 
about so much of Sor and Giuliani?  It seems to me that it is on 
a continuum with all of that house music, a tradition that was 
brought to an abrupt end with the invention of the phonograph.  
One of the reasons that I was drawn to lute music in the first 
place was for the window into a past world that it provides, and 
19th c. American guitar music provides a similar window into our 
grand- and great-grand-parent's quickly receding  world. It's a 
pity that so much of the guitar world suffers from virtuositis 
brought on by too easy access to recorded music.  Thanks again.  

I'll wait to hear from you about the Neville guitar and piano 
pieces, as you sound like someone who doesn't need excess paper 
around the house.  If I can't find the sheet music of the Jacobs 
soon, I'll just send you some of my tab.  

THEE: RE: webers last waltz 

I did get the music.  Thank you so much.  

I've actually just decided to scrap the beginning and start over 
with a new approach to the piece, so I guess that means it's back 
to square one.  But I have a lot of ideas and some things from 
the middle and end will stay, so all is not lost. :) 

ME: Subject: sump'n old sump'n new 

Sorry I walked off with your video backlog list Friday night.  (I 
had laid it on top of the 50 guitars record, and grabbed them 
both up.)  Hope you survived the weekend without it.  Next up was 
Sorority Girl (1957, 61m).  Corman quickie for AIP, *1/2.  Give a 
call if you need to know what to watch next.  

Had a good day at LC yesterday.  Called up all their solo guitar 
music in their "rare" collection.  Copied a baroque guitar book 
from probably about 1680.  Intend to put it up on the web in 
modern tablature.  Also copied some pages from a Russian guitar 
book from about 1828.  The Russian guitar has 7 strings and is 
tuned differently from ours.  Still, I always figured that by 
retuning our 6 strings, you could do a good job with Russian 
guitar music, and these pages confirm my theory.  

On the other end of the spectrum, I found on the new books cart 
called "The Amazing Music Pop Up Book".  Besides all kinds of 
tabs and windows, it had an electronic keyboard in the back.  
Can't imagine any kid learning to read music from it, but it was 
fun.  Got some bemused looks from other users.  Most of the 
double-pages had a little group of guitar-playing bugs wrapping 
up that lesson and telling you to go on.  No points for guessing 
the name on the drumskin - The Beetles.  

Also found something in the main reading room that my mom needed.  
She has a book about Bob Harrington that was missing 2 chapters.  
She apparently sent them to other people for some reason.  Now 
she got curious about what those chapters were about.  Chapter 
one was a discussion with Blaze Starr (which you might enjoy) and 
the other one was a debate between Harrington and Madalyn Murray 
O'Hare.  I think she's back in the news again.  I saw a Post 
article that said they finally found some bones.  

I mentioned that I did a search on a couple of unusual names from 
my Boys' Club Stephen Foster album.  Forgot to say that one of 
the names came right up as a singer for a Beatles sound-alike 
group called the Fab Faux.  Somehow I doubt that it's the same 

ME: Subject: gtr & piano 

YES!  I'd be thrilled with a copy of the guitar & piano pieces by 
George Neville. I'm not familiar with them.  Right now, guitar 
and piano is about the only thing I have going as far as playing 
with other people.  My piano friend is named Elmer Booze.  He 
used to be a librarian at the Library of Congress.  He has a bit 
of a renown as page turner, believe it or not.  (Search for his 
name on the web.)  Last week we played through a set of 
arrangements by Nu"ske from the Barber of Seville.  I whipped up 
a tape with the extracts from the opera which Nu"ske arranged.  
Now that's my idea of fun! 

I like the way you stick up for "house music".  I'd like to think 
that you could find an excuse for saying the same things in a 
letter to Soundbaord magazine, for example.  Are you familiar 
with it?  I don't see your name among GFA members.  The editor 
Peter Danner has a regular column called "Return With Us Now" 
that features 19th C. American guitar music.  I view Peter as the 
main authority on the subject.  

ME: from this valley they say we are coming 

I suppose it would seem a mundane sort of coincidence to anybody 
else, but it's *very* bizarre to me how tracking down some music 
for you has brought up Shreveport and the Red River.  I'm not a 
traveler or a geographer of any sort, and until recently I would 
have only known of those two as names - and in the case of the 
Red River half figuring it was fictitious.  But both popped up in 
one of my recent web pages - and having nothing to do with W.C. 
O'Hare, or Treemonisha, or anything like that, but having to do 
with *peanut butter* and the *Beatles*!  Think I'm pulling your 
leg?  Check out\ringo-beaucoups-blues.htm

THEE: Guitar Picking Right Hand 

Hi, i see the letters p, i, m, and a to show which right hand 
finger the notes should be picked with. I figure i is for index 
and m for middle. I'm not sure if that's what they really mean, 
can you tell me which each letter is for?  

THEE: Re: from this valley they say we are coming 

>I'm not sure I remember you mentioning "the priest with 12 
grandchildren", but I thrilled vicariously to your story of the 
O'Hare/Linden Grove/Shreveport connection.  

Intriguing sounding story, huh?  Perhaps I didn't tell it.  WC's 
baby brother, Joseph Vincent, entered the Jesuit priesthood as a 
teen, much as two of their sisters became Sisters. While the 
sisters became teachers for underprivileged kids (Sisters of 
Charity), Joseph Vincent became the first English-speaking 
missionary in Alaska!  He spent 10 years at a French mission 
school in interior Holy Cross, Alaska.  Then, for whatever 
reason, he dropped out of the order, returned home to Washington, 
D. C., and married the girl across the street.  They had one 
daughter, Nina Marie O'Hare Wheatley.  She had 12 children, 11 or 
whom are alive today, most in the Washington, D. C. area--though 
none in D.C., itself.  My family knew of none of these people 
until I dredged them up.  

By the way, Pat & Mike have all the letters that Joseph Vincent 
wrote from Alaska to a sister (not a Sister) who stayed in D. C. 
and married.  When I asked if the letters mention WC, Mike 
replied that they do, and that many of the mentions are very 
poignant.  Seems JV had lost contact with his brother.  He was 
trying to re-establish contact by writing to the NY publisher, 
presumably Witmark.  WC, for whatever reason, wasn't replying.  
JV was asking their sister to help him re-establish contact.  
Sounds like a mystery there.  

>I'm not a traveller or a geographer of any sort, and until 
recently I would have only known of those two as names - and in 
the case of the Red River half figuring it was fictitious.  

What do you think forms the natural boundary between Oklahoma & 

>But both popped up in one of my recent web pages - and having 
nothing to do with W.C. O'Hare, or Treemonisha, or anything like 
that, but having to do with *peanut butter* and the *Beatles*!  
Think I'm pulling your leg?  Check out 

> http://...

Just did.  Cool.  Funny about the free jars of peanut butter, 
too.  Wonder what George Washington Carver would think of all 

Speaking of Shreveport, and Bossier, and music, I guess 
Shreveport was a hot bed of blues.  Leadbelly lived there for 
some time (much of it perhaps in jail), and today a bronze statue 
of Leadbelly stands on the street directly in front of the main 
public library where I've spent hundreds of hours reading 
microfilms of 100+ year old newspapers.  It's one of those 
statues that looks so real, you almost want to speak to the 
person.  Anyway, Leadbelly stands there for all to see, guitar 
hanging 'round his neck, one arm upraised and pointing toward the 
neighborhood just to one side of downtown where he used to play 
and live.  A local historian wrote an urban renewal  proposal a 
while back suggesting that the "Texas Avenue strip" be restored, 
along with the surrounding area. The strip was a black busines 
and entertainment center, the home of much of the ragtime, blues, 
and jazz to come out of the area.  The adjacent neighborhood 
included a legal red-light district known as St. Paul's Bottoms, 
or simply "the Bottoms."  The private school where WC taught was 
at one end of the Texas Ave. strip; at one point, he lived across 
the street from the school.  

>Hope the doggie is doing fine.  

Yippy yo, ki yay . . . or however the heck you spell that.  The 
doggy is gittin' 'long fine.  Don't own a doggie.  (BTW, clever 
subject line.)  But that reminds me of another funny story.  At a 
conference for the Society of American Music in 1999 in Fort 
Worth, TX, one of the many Easterners in attendance gave a 
presentation on a cowboy song.  All very fun and interesting, but 
I had difficulty restraining the laughter when he repeatedly 
pronounced "doggie" like "doggy."  The former should have a long 
o sound.  Later I mentioned it to my ragtime pal Hself,  whom I 
met for the first time at that conference, and to several other 
New Yorkers with whom we were hanging out. Not one of them had an 
inkling of the error.  [the stray calf under discussion here is 
really spelled dogy or dogie.]

THEE: Subject: Kapsberger 

Thank you for the note and the intriguing ideas. Lowering the top 
string to a D (an eminently unobvious solution) certainly does do 
away with some difficulties in this piece. I found it to be 
surprisingly readable with a little practice - possibly because 
there are already two other D strings.  This tuning begins to 
converge on Baroque lute tuning (ADFADF) with its several 
intervals of a third between strings. I wonder if your idea 
parallels the changes in, and motivations for, lute tuning in 
this period.  

I have sometimes imagined an expert system (sequence of decision 
rules) that would produce the most efficient fingering for guitar 
music. One selectable option in this program could be to 
determine the best alternate tuning. Of course, this option would 
find little enthusiasm with most players - except those using 
tablature notation! 

THEE: Subject: The list! 

So that's what became of the list!  I looked for it a little bit 
yesterday.  I printed a fresh one this morning.  I had watched 
"Sorority Girl" Thursday night.  It was great! 

Thanks for coming over Friday.  I hope you had a tolerable 
evening.  Those were weak videos we watched, but interesting.  
Early Saturday morning, I noted that the MONO button on my amp 
was pushed.  We watched those essential videos in mono!  Does 
this mean we have to rent "Alf Bicknell's Personal Beatles Diary" 
again and listen to it properly?  

I plunked down some dough for a used copy of the "Yellow 
Submarine" DVD today, when I returned Alf.  I've already started 
recording the music track for you.  What should I say next?  

    a) I'm sorry 

    b) You're welcome.  

Keep score by rounds! 

Blaze Starr, although not born in this state, is a fine 

I'm looking forward to watching the bulk of "The Spirit of St.  
Louis" tonight (that's movie two on your list).  Meanwhile, 
Hself's praying for snow tomorrow.  

THEE: I got your mailing today at school.  Let me work through 
the material and  email you this wknd.  Just wanted to thank you 
and let you know it arrived.  I must say the purple type pasted 
(!) amendment to Montecchi is annoyingly curious and yes that 
Shide piece is not a winner-if it's by Mertz I cannot identify it 
yet-there are some Mertz idioms but some passages that are not at 
all like him (the 8ves at the end).  Very interesting!  

THEE: Re: gtr & piano 

I'll send off the Neville asap.  Actually, as I look at the title 
page, I realize that only the piano parts are by Neville.  The 
guitar parts are apparently solos by someone(s) else, composer 
not specified.  

As for a letter to the Soundboard, I'd be happy to, except that I 
would feel like I was jumping into what appears to be an on-going 
discussion without having been in on the beginning.  As you note, 
I'm not a member of GFA.  For about twenty years I thought of 
myself as a lute player, and wasn't particularly interested in 
guitar.  When my youngest child was born (now 21 months, and 17 
years younger than his next oldest sibling), I no longer had time 
to tune my lute.  I also hadn't ever been particularly inspired 
by the Spanish repertoire, which was about all that I knew of for 
guitar.  Happily, I've discovered this wonderful music.  Had I 
known of the facsimiles in Soundboard, I probably would have 

THEE: On another note... it appears that the WGS [washington 
guitar society] is at a crossroads.  Will it sink or swim?  Hself 
has realized that he is not capable of doing the newsletter 
anymore.  I'll probably step in for an issue or two.  

It has really broken my heart to watch the WGS diminish bit by 
bit.  I was really upset watching the newsletter fall as well.  I 
sincerely hope that Risa will get on board.  I may even get 
involved again in some fashion.  I really miss what it was.  

O'h well...  


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